Is ferocious punching power mostly genetics?

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  1. iloverachel

    iloverachel Member banned Full Member

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    I know punching the heavy bag, using dumbbells to shadow box, using the speed bag
    [url]I[/url] just read from expert boxing website

    Some interesting bits I will copy and paste

    What’s the best body type for punching power?

    This argument has gone on forever. Some people say you need a big upper body and big arms like Evander Holyfield. Others will argue that real power comes from the legs like Felix Trinidad. Young kids might like the stocky, muscular build like Mike Tyson. But old school trainers may prefer a smooth-muscled body like Muhammad Ali. There are also people who feel a broad back and long arms has more snapping power like Julian Jackson. And finally, some people will just say, “If you got it, you got it.”

    Incredible punching power can come from ANY body type!

    I can honestly tell you that I’ve seen power come from all body types. Tall, short, muscular, slim, big arms, skinny arms, thick legs, chicken legs, etc. The beauty of technique is that it works for everyone. Put your body in the right position, crank a little and *BOOM!* Technique really does all the work for you.
     
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    ertwin Active Member banned Full Member

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    definitely not. Its 2/3 technique and 1/3 chin.
    Wilder was no ko artist as an amateur but then went on to become one of the strongest punchers in history.

    a strong chin is one of the most important things. It allows you to square more up to your opponent and land with more power but you will eat more punchers therefor. If you look at those feather fisted guys they usually stand extremely side ways. You can retreat faster and your left jab is faster but its harder to get big power in your shoots.
     
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    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Punch smarter not harder. ;)
     
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  5. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Someone should tell Paulie Malignaggi that a sturdy chin and good technique = ferocious punching power
     
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    the answer is slightly different for each of the different punches (jab, uppercut, etc,).

    obviously never forget that boxers need to have the cardio to fight another man one on one (just about the most exhausting thing, second for second, that anyone will ever do) for a number of rounds. the physique you might hypothetically want just to try & register as high a score as possible on a fairground punching machine might look quite different to that of a guy who has to balance strength, agility, endurance, and so on.

    I think there are large genetic and trained components to it, it's similar to, y'know, a golf swing or a baseball pitch or whatever, it's quite a biomechanically complex action that ideally needs a lot of coordination, flexibility, explosiveness, and traditional muscle type strength too.
     
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  7. mirkofilipovic

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    As with anything, a mix of genetic and external factors. I dont have time to write anymore, sorry guys:lol:
     
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  8. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Baseball pitch is the perfect analog. It does not matter how much practice you put into it most guys will never throw a 90 mph fastball and yet some guys are doing it before they turn 16 years old with limited practice / experience
     
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    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mmm Nigel Benn...bit chinny thats why he was so excising, even more lethal when injured & wobbly, Fact!
     
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    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Timing & footwork ...they never see it comin as they get up off the floor!
     
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    The hardest heavyweight punchers got their strength from manual labor and from having a mentally hard upbringing, that’s the secret. Tyson, Foreman, Frazier, Shavers, Marciano, Dempsey, Liston and Wilder all did some sort of repetitive farmwork or construction, pulling or roadwork with weights.

    Lifting weights in the gym does nothing for punching power.
     
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    panchman69 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calisthenics
     
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    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Technique.
     
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    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    80% genetics 20% technique
     
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    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would say mostly genetics. Ya either got it or you dont.
     
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