Headbutt being ignored by the media?

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well said.

 

that body shot didn't affect Torres at all

 

That wasn't even a legit bodyshot that was a liver shot.

For Hatton-Castillo you could easily see Castillo didn't crumble, he went down by his choice probably IDK his legs were stiff.


Gatti-Dorin - perfect example of a fighters legs not wanting to move and he has to take a knee.


If you seriously want to think that a HOLT bodyshot made Torres not know where he was, then so be it. That just proves how big of a **** **** you really are.

IT's clear as day a headbutt caused the damage.


As for the other videos, you proved my point when you said they get stiff.


I find it funny it's clear as day that he starts to "Crumble" after he gets hit by the headbutt.

Why would he crumble from a bodyshot that didn't even cleanly land

 

Not a body shot....a liver shot??? Are you THAT dumb??? They are one in the same. That is like saying a right hook to the temple isnt a shot to the head???

If his legs were stiff as you say, how would he truely be able to fall to a knee...STRAIGHT DOWN?

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Do you see how wrong you are?

Dorin gets hit and where does he go??? STRAIGHT DOWN TO ONE KNEE!!! Wonder why?

Do you even know how to read???

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I ****ING SAID 18 TIMES THAT THE HEADBUTT HURT TORRES!!!! I also said there was a great body shot before it...and it was FINISHED BY A GREAT RIGHT HAND?!?!?!

Im the **** ****, yet you dont even know how to read properly. Get the **** outta here.

SOME of the damage...why are you guys with obvious agendas failing to recognize that there were 3 factors in this.

1- a great body shot
2- a headbutt
3- a phenominal right hand

Noone is disputing that the clash of heads happened jackass...we are saying there was more to Torres being hurt than JUST the headbutt.

Like I said, learn to ****ing read. Your emabarrassing yourself.

I said their LEGS WENT WEAK!!! Hense why a fighter normally (under MOST circumstances) crumbles under his own weight...and either drops straight down (normally after backtracking from the initial pain) or takes a KNEE. And WHY do they take a knee??? BECAUSE THEIR LEGS WONT HOLD UP THEIR WEIGHT!!!

Your point was that your legs dont wobble from a body shot...which was one of the single dumbest posts I have ever read on this site. It proves two things.

1- You have never been hit with a body shot.
2- You too blind by your bias to even see what every video I posted shows clearly.

You really need some hooked on phonics...I mean, BADLY!!! Reading is fundamental bro.

There was a clean body shot (you can see it from EVERY ANGLE THEY SHOW)...then there was a bad unintentional clash of heads....then there was a fantastic right hand that finished the job.

See, I picked Torres to win by TKO...and I was wrong. I am admitting so. Its the people like you that have an OBVIOUS agenda in this situation that are making it seem like the headbutt was what caused the KO and there was nothing else that happened. Admit you were wrong about the fight and move the **** on....because this back and forth with me is just proving how truely dumb you are (cant read, dont listen, blinded by bias, etc.).

Learn to ****ing read (and get some basic boxing knowledge before you argue with people please...its ****ing maddening!!!).

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as a guy who's written up his share of fight reports i have an answer as to why the media thus far has neglected to mention the headbutt and it's most likely a simple case of human error. think about it, even with the aid of slow-mo, multiple angles, and replays there is still a debate raging over the impact the headbutt caused in the fight. in fact, during the fight the announcers don't even mention the headbutt until they view the replays. most journalists who sent out fight reports probably didn't see the headbutt and if they did probably thought it had a negligable impact and opted to omit it from their writeup. so expect a myriad of articles concerning the headbutt to come out in the next few days, but the inital reports won't mention it simply because of human error. no conspiracy theory here.

 

imo that bodyshot seems to do very limited damage and was completely inconsequential to the outcome. Not a crumbling bodyshot by any means.

It was definately the headbutt

 

Somewhere BHOP is smiling. Classic.

 

I don't see how it's debateable when looking at the replay, Torres is clearly knocked sensless by an unintentional clash of heads, THEN is hit by a huge right that he could have never seen coming because his head was already in a slumping position. No contest.

 

That shot clearly buckled his knees and put him in the position to be Koed

 

Respect to a gentleman who takes action. Props. :good

 

it was unintentional but it was a very dangerous headbutt. Ill sya Torres vs Holt 3.

 

God you truly an idiot.

You backtrack on most of your statements then say Im wrong.


When a good bodyshot lands. Fighters legs get stiff and go weak and it is HARDER to move than it is easier.

When I say harder, I mean, it's hard for them to move there legs at all without being in tremendous pain.

When a fighter is hit on the chin cleanly and hard they tend to bobble about trying to get their legs under them, not trying to move their, trying to contain them. Ala what Torres was doing after he got hit by the headbutt. It's clear as day the bodyshot had nothing to do with the outcome, Torres partially blocked in on the angles I see. And to top it off when you load the gif you can see it in slo mo the body shot has NO effect what so ever and the headbutt hits Torres and instantly Torres is wobbled trying to contain his feet from under him.

If that damage was from the bodyshot Torres wouldn't of moved near as much as he did.

 

imo if that bodyshot had truly caused significant pain, Torres would not have been so quick to counter it.