Whyte V Povetkin £19.95!

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  1. ButeTheBeast

    ButeTheBeast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There's a strong breed of Matchroom casuals.

    Hopefully the ****s are unemployed and won't have £20 to spend. This should hopefully deflate Eddie's PPV numbers.

    Whyte-Povetkin is not a PPV fight.

    We moan about the Americans but their fights are of a much higher quality, Tank Davis vs Santa Cruz, Charlo vs Sergiy and Garcia vs Spence Jr are all much better fights.
     
  2. sjp17

    sjp17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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  3. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just go on social media and you will see. They revel in anything Matchroom do even the last fight camp card. They talk about Hearn as if he is the 2nd coming, a very odd bunch.
     
  4. Jurgen

    Jurgen Pay Per Pudding Advisor banned Full Member

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    The cohort of PPV Mugths are right up there with the thickest suckers anywhere in the world.

    World Class Salesman and acting director Eh Day Hearn plans the sales pitch well. Throw in Adam Smith's pre rehearsed lines, the rehearsed acting by fighters at pressers, bit of Tweet Snortaline playing pre fight and these mugths are hooked.

    You get Tony Hayers on here and plenty others on Twitter paid to post as many supportive tweets and posts as possible using words like 'buzzin'.

    History informs us that you get one decent headline fight on PPV out of every 10 with the rest simply not PPV worthy and stinkers.

    Yet these PPV Mugths fall for the same tricks time and again although the non PPV army is now much bigger and growing rapidly with advances in technology.

    Pudding Whyte v Pudding Pedvetkin for the lineal World Pudding Association Title is never a PPV fight but as long as the PPV Mugths keep paying, the multi millionaire Eh Day Hearn and fighters will continue to take the money from the suckers.
     
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  5. TonyHayers

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    See, I tell you what you sound like. An old man talking about modern music. 'I cannot believe the sh*t people listen to these days, who on earth buys this stuff, it's absolute garbage and bad for music in general.'

    Point is, it is popular. You can moan all you like about Whyte headlining a PPV, but the only reason he is doing so is because he's popular enough for hundreds of thousands of people to buy his fights. That's it.

    Also, I'm not sure you're really correct with the above examples. Bellew Usyk you've said was 'a joke.' Bellew was, since leaving light heavy, on a ten fight winning streak, and had won European and WBC world titles. He was always going to be an outsider because of how good Usyk was, but you can't realistically pretend that fight wasn't worthy of consideration? I'd like to know any other circumstance where the WBC champion in one weight class is a 'joke' for fighting a unified champion in the same division?
     
  6. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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  7. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    They can scale back on their own squad funding, they can agree wage cuts and deferrals. There's a lot they can do BEFORE fleecing fans. For what it's worth my opinion is that the likes of St Johnstone and Livingston would sell a hell of a lot more streams at a fairer price anyway. I highly doubt that there would be a big difference between the revenue generated from £9.99 streams as opposed to £17.50 streams. St Johnstone don't have a big fanbase. Supporters of other clubs playing them away are simply not going to pay £17.50 en masse when they can find alternative streaming options.

    Regarding St Johnstone as far as I'm aware they haven't agreed any wage cuts or deferrals yet. The average salary at the club is in excess of £60k a year - that's triple the average salary in Perth, the fanbase expected to splash out £17.50 to stream a game.

    The point that I'm making is that there are a lot of actions sports clubs, promoters and broadcasters can take before fleecing fans for money - and I include the multi-million pound purse earning boxers, Hearn and Sky in that. Also your slightly facetious argument "should the players just play for free?" is actually not too wide of the mark. Johnny Hayes who plays for Aberdeen has deferred his entire salary for a year until fans are expected to be providing gate revenue again. Not the same as "playing for free" but that's the sort of gesture that enables the club to price matches more fairly for fans.

    Rangers pricing the games at £9.99 is smart because it's affordable and fans will be more inclined to give the club the money as opposed to using alternative streams. And Rangers are one club where the players agreed a wage deferral, which presumably has supported the club in setting the streaming price so cheaply.
     
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  8. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We already buy a monthly ticket to the sky gig. We shouldnt have to buy two tickets
     
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  9. TBC-ASAP

    TBC-ASAP Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cullen vs Chelli a good addition. Is he still with Warren.
     
  10. TonyHayers

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    But St Johnston only get around two and a half thousand fans through the gate. The difference between a tenner and the price they've set is a significant percentage of what they can get. In addition, there's no point moaning about it being a crappy product; people will voluntarily cough up money for zero return to support their football club because they support the team. Football is a poor example to use; we know the players at some of these clubs aren't that well off, and telling a bloke with three kids and a mortgage who happens to be on the decent salary of sixty grand a year to just defer his wage for a year isn't a realistic option.

    You moan about the wages St Johnstone players get and it being triple the salary for people in Perth. You presumably also realise that most people employed in Perth don't do a job where you end up having to retire in your mid-30's, possibly earlier if you're unlucky and get injured.
     
  11. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I love all this "retire mid 30's" nonesense.... Are athletes exempt from getting another job after their sport? After their sport career is finished if they havent made enough money they can still work they certainly aint "retired"
     
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  12. Momus

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    Cooper and Bruno were household names long before they fought Ali and Tyson. Cooper was fighting in football stadia against domestic opposition and winning SPOTY on the back of it. This notion that Hearn is doing something new in selling non world title fights as something important is fundamentally flawed.

    The media and channels of promotion change with the times, but in essence Hearn isn't doing anything that his predecessors didn't do. He isn't the Anti-Christ and isn't going to ruin boxing; at some point someone else will be the top promoter in the country and doing much the same.
     
  13. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    Yeah exactly lol. So many of them end up securing very good jobs after. Being a full-time footballer means that you have enormous amounts of free time to study for qualifications. They tend to do a few hours of training every day along with approximately two days off a week.

    Only the moronic types interested in flash spending end up ruining themselves down the line. The smart ones get degrees whilst playing football. @TonyHayers you will be surprised a just how many of them are doing this right now. The PFA Scotland provides a lot of support to players in getting degrees. It's a pretty poor argument you've made there. A good high profile example is Stuart Armstrong who plays for Southampton and is probably paid in excess of £50k a week. Whilst he was at Dundee United as a youngster he started studying for a law degree and has since attained that qualification. All full-time professional players in Scotland have the capacity to do similar.
     
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  14. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    Anyway the thread is getting derailed a little into football finance chat and that wasn't my intention. The point I'm trying to make is that promoters and broadcasters in a sport surely have a duty to help sports fans to watch in an affordable fashion during this pandemic. If that means that the high-earners have to take slight pay cuts is that really such a bad thing? I sincerely hope this PPV flops but I'm doubtful as I mentioned in my other posts. Especially with the English football in pre-season I can see so many casual fans buying this.
     
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  15. Jurgen

    Jurgen Pay Per Pudding Advisor banned Full Member

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    The more informed people know that nearly anything broadcast over the internet is free nowadays mate - you just need to be told which shop window to look in.

    The biggest problems facing Scottish Football, looking on from the outside, is the people running the game, those people negotiating a TV deal with Sky only worth £36m per year which is probably the worst in Europe (That was with Gerrard and Rogers in charge at time of deal). There is no appetite for change to what is a very poor standard of football due to finance and it would appear the fans up there have lost all will and fight to demand better.

    If one selected any top Scottish club outside Rangers or Celtic, stick them in the Conference, I have no idea whether any are good enough to win it or whether some would struggle to even stay in it in some cases.

    Celtic's prize money was £3m for winning the league last season while Wycombe Wanderers received £9m for being promoted to the Championship via the play-offs.

    The Champions of Scotland should never be shopping for players in the 3rd tier of English Football and they could not even meet the valuation.

    There is a clear example of the problem and I don't understand why the fans (Rangers and Celtic included) don't all get together and demand removal of the clowns that have ruined the game up North.
     
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