We all know Saunders is an idiot, but he was a world champion who was probably one of the biggest names Frank had. And he left. Liam Smith was another. Also gone. As for Warrington, you raise the question of Frank and Eddie both not being able to get the Stevenson fight. That doesn't mean it'll never happen. So if both are in that position, it's not a factor that can be used to differentiate between the two. Warrington therefore chose Hearn for other reasons. As has been said, none of this is surprising. The trend for a decade at least has been fighters moving away from Frank.
He left, because Frank wasn’t willing to pay him big for any more WBO bums, when he can’t sell tickets and the same time, having to deal with the flack from him abusing random crackheads and other members of the public. Frank hasn’t missed him in the slightest and hasn’t needed Saunders since he joined BT in all honesty. I think as he had him from a kid, there is an emotional tie which led to him putting up with some of his disgraceful pull outs like when he stood up Murray and the leisure centre debacle etc. Frank must have looked at it and said I’ve got, Dubois,Joyce, Warrington, (at the time) Frampton, Yarde and cracking prospects like McCann, Sharpe, Adeleye, Henry Turner, Hutchinson etc..why am I still bothering with Billy.. As for Warrington, he left for the same reason he left Eddie in the first place..at the time he could get a better deal on the others side with the current circumstances and good luck to him. Great action fighter and a decent kid also. Stevenson is long gone though, and It’s hard to see where Eddie can go with him from here..unless it’s Galahad again, which even you must acknowledge, is not what anybody wants to see.
Warrington was an odd one as by going to Hearn he pretty much walked away from the biggest fights in his division, or at least added an extra degree of difficulty making them.
Yes, that true. I honestly think it’s the Galahad fight and the prospect of having to put it on again which screwed the situation for Frank. It cost Frank a fortune and it was a terrible fight. With Stevenson moving up and looking at big US fights instead, other than Galahad the bigger fights available would seem to be more accessible using Frank; Frampton rematch if he beats Herring, Conlan (for promotional reasons not achievement yet) Archie Sharpe etc. Josh’s next move with Hearn will be interesting.
Ok fair point Frampton and Fury are still “technically” with Warren but we both know he doesn’t call the shots, Arum does. In fairness Corona virus happened not long after Warrington signed with Matchroom so Ill judge whether or not they can get the Stevenson fight after all this blows over. I agree the wife beating clips show that BJS is a t*sser, but you’re deluded if you think Warren is in any relieved to not be promoting Saunders or Warrington. If it were up to Frank he’d be promoting both, but he’s not. As you said Frampton signed with Warren, but I am right in saying Matchroom didn’t want to pay him the money he was asking for, Warren did. And now both Frampton are ultimately under the control of Toprank, not Frank Warren.
The example I gave the other day was that you cannot really say Fury is a Warren fighter because if Warren decided he wanted to do some massive UK show with Fury headlining at Wembley or something Arum would just say no and that would be that. The reality is that Fury hasn't fought in the UK for years and doesn't look like he will any time soon. Fury's attachment to Frank appears to be exclusively based on him appearing on the channel which Frank's fighters fight on. If Arum is picking opponents, paying Fury, choosing venues and so on, Frank doesn't really have much to do.
Fury last fought in the UK about 1 month befoe AJ last did. Since then one conquered America, the other got splatted.
I have no doubt that Frank is glad to see the back of Saunders, Warrington not so much. Josh wanted to go to the US and in hindsight he might have wanted to use the Arum connection. Russel Jr, Santa Cruz, Xu, Naverette, Stevenson, Dogboe, Magdeleno are the names he is looking to mix with not Galahad and Archie Sharp ffs.
Cant really blame eddie if he was to not work with warren. Tbh not sure i would at this stage. Frank doesnt help himself...He should have seen way earlier that eddie wasn,t just a competitor...he was pretty much taking over. Franks left it too late to realise it...caused too many problems and ended up going too far with it. Hes been petty from the start...tried everything in his power to block matchroom....now looks like hes ready to wave the white flag because hes got nowhere else to go. Should have waved it a long time ago...instead hes spent that time being petty and letting his ego get the better of him.
Frank's been adamant about a lot of things over the years, many of which haven't happened. I gave up on believing what Frank says when after every Calzaghe fight for about nine years he mentioned Hopkins and Johnson, and then there would be a quiet few months, and would you believe it they just couldn't get the deal done so here's Tocker Pudwill. Here's my guess; Tyson will do what Arum tells him to do.
He won't. He'll have a contract with Arum who's just secured him the richest year he's had. He's not going to tear that apart and risk the inevitable legal fall out just because he wants to have a fight. He's also got plenty of form for saying things which don't happen. The Klitschko rematch, the retirement, the multiple dates for fights which never happened, the 'I'll fight anyone anywhere no excuses' and then he suddenly couldn't fight because his uncle was ill, the giving all his money away, the obviously fake mental illness excuses when he got popped. You take Tyson's word with a pinch of salt, just like Frank's.
