Can Sebastian Fundora ever be beaten?

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  1. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Wasn't he close to being beaten already?
     
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  2. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    There is always somebody better. Hard work beats talent when talent doesn’t work hard.
     
  3. CaravanDweller

    CaravanDweller Member banned Full Member

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    The more skilled fighter doesnt always win a fight especially if a huge size advantage is involved.

    And in any case most of todays heavys are very coordinated for their size. Fury moves 10x better than bambi on ice Corbett
     
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  4. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    That's what I meant. Size is even more of a handicap when those factors are also at play.
     
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  5. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    Fine, you smart ass :lol:
    How about Valuev? How did he loose to Haye and Chagaev if height is so relevant? Hell, old ass Holyfield should have gotten the nod as well.
    Tye Fields?

    Leduan Barthelemy is the same height as Mike Tyson. He should be having a field day at 126. But this happened:
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    And as much as i have seen from Fundura, he is extremely hittable. Then there is the fact that he can only re-hydrate so much.
    SHW´s will have 30 or 40 lbs on their smaller opponents. Fundora will not.
    You could make a case that 10lbs at Super-Welter is the same as 30lbs at Heavyweight. Even if that were true, then for some ****ed up reason, most top 154lb guys in recent years has been huge for the weight. So Fundora won´t have a big since advantage over them.
    And Fundora just recently fought to a draw with a guy more his own height.

    Skills pay the bills, as that dumb saying goes. Unfortunately Fundora does not have them skills:
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    But hey, maybe he will get better. Who knows. That height alone is a ***** to deal with.
     
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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Anyone can gain weight.
     
  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Valuev lost to Haye and Chagaev by being out pointed.
     
  8. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    Exactly. His height and weight were negated.
    Boxing is a about skills and tactics. Tactics being the key.
    If you have the size, you must know how to utilize it. Paul Williams did not do it.
    Antonio Margarito however did.

    Brandon Rios at 135 was all about his size and raw aggression. Against Acosta he made it work. However against Abril he could not do so. Abril knew how to negate those strengths of his.
     
  9. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

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    He's a gangly stalker who gives up his height and swings big sloppy roundhouse punches with his mouth gaping open. Very little intelligent use of his height or reach.
     
  10. IntentionalButt

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    Inoue could two-piece him asleep.
     
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  11. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    That kind of a height advantage doesn't mean much. If it was Valuev would have done more
     
  12. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Imagine how ridiculous that would look...

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    https://www.ufc.com/video/roy-nelson-vs-stefan-struve-ufn-21

    There's lost of extreme height/size disparity David vs. Goliath at HW but not as much as the lower weight classes. Trying think of some....

    Tete/Casimero was pretty extreme but nowhere in this ballbark.

    Any that come to.mind at the lower weights?

    @Boxing Prospect feel free to chime as you're probably the foremost expert of the lower weights on here.
     
  13. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The biggest problem Paul Williams suffered was his constant weight jumping back and forth. Before beating Margarito, P Will had ZERO resume, other than beating Sharmba Mitchell who had been blasted out of 140 already. And losing to Carlos Quintana in his first defense of the WBO didn't help much either. He jumped to 160 for a fight, went to 154 for a fight w/ Verno. And back to 160. He jumped up and down too much to secure a proper rating in any one division for the most part IMO. Especially at WW, where a combination of very few top wins and movement hindered him.
     
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  15. Bill Watkins Jr.

    Bill Watkins Jr. Member Full Member

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    Why hasn't this fought any top guys at 147 yet?