There’s been plenty of us on here criticising Whyte’s skills over the years, whilst giving him kudos for his qualities. I believe he should have at least had a draw against Chisora in the first fight. I thought Chisora was on his way to beating him in the second fight until the ‘system’ (ref point deductions) took his heart (and tactics) away. He got extremely lucky against Parker, the system once again giving him a helping hand. He’s beat Dave Allen on points (Price stopped him), Lewison much less convincingly than Joyce. The ghost of Lucas Brown (who Dave Allen beat quicker). Bored us to tears against Helenius. Got put on his backside against Rivas (Juiced up and glove fiasco). Turned up in terrible shape off the back of a suspension which was mysteriously lifted to go life and death with shot to pieces Wach. I’m just giving a bit of context to the last 5 years and winning run he’s put together here. It’s been entertaining but it hasn’t been convincing. That’s why I’ve never got on the train about him deserving his title shot...on paper yes, but is this a world level fighter, absolutely not. Wilder and Joshua bang him out pretty emphatically. Fury stops him if he feels like it. If you think he’s the fourth best heavyweight in the world then i think you’ve absorbed too much of the bull from the Sky narrative. I’m not sure he’s the fourth best in Britain, genuinely. Can you confidently say that he beats Dubois or Joyce (I think both beat him they are too big)? He would go life and death with Chisora again, that’s pretty much proven. Dillian tells us himself that he’s ‘learning on the job’...he knows he’s not this quality technical heavyweight. He’s a 6”1, 18 stone slugger.
And that's even after his months away 'warm weather training' . He has never lived the life. He thinks you can be a fat slob 24/7, then do 6 weeks in a university and that'll cut it.
The only fighter Whyte ever beat who was generally and universally regarded as a top 10 heavyweight (outside of phoney ratings) was Joseph Parker, and that win was controversial and at the least merited a rematch. (Oscar Rivas was borderline top 10 based on a solitary win over the mediocre Bryant Jennings. Chisora was maybe solidly top 15 or top 20 after that KO of Takam.) But people talk as if Whyte's been beating a path through the legitimate contenders, rather than mostly fringe guys and third-raters. I'm not dismissing what he's done, those were good wins, and I know lots of fighter have done less and received title shots, but his winning run was ridiculous overrated and over hyped by SKY and Hearn. Talking as if he was cleaning out the division to earn a shot at the champs.
So far today: David Haye moaning Dillian never got a count & Fury did then Gareth A Davies saying because Dillians been in Portugal lately his body looked cold
This content is protected Dillian in good spirits. Aydamn needs to come back from hiding already and address the forum too.
It’s good that he’s still healthy and good on him for talking to the media the day after getting chinned, credit to him. I will say this though, having watched it again, I had it even after 4 rounds. Povetkin looked slow and shot but he still arguably won them first 3 rounds. This is the thing, Whyte can’t say he doesn’t need to improve and it’s not like he got beat up...but he keeps starting fights slow, and he’s not jumping on fighters who are hurt. He had Chisora hurt in round 1 of the rematch, and let him off. He had Rivas hurt early. Povetkin was badly hurt last night. He doesn’t seem able to capitalise on these opportunities. He’s too slow and lumbering. Flicking out a lazy jab isn’t bossing a fight which is what he thinks. My point is, he needs to improve a lot, he’s been floored a few times now, 3 by uppercuts.
Just watched Whyte’s interview which I assume was conducted earlier today , seemed matter of fact that he stated “these things happen “ what was worrying is that he believed he didn’t have to change anything for the rematch as he was winning the fight . Only a fool doesn’t learn from his mistakes. I am unsure whether there is a coach that could improve Whyte enough to graft in some skills to get him to be able to actually win a legit world title ? Particularly when he doesn’t perceive he has a problem, yes he is capable of beating Povetkin in the return but I wouldn’t bet a penny on that or on the enviable PPV.
People always read too much in these kinds of knock outs with heavyweights. It was the same with AJ when he lost to Ruiz with all the talk of panic attacks, his dad attacking Hearn in the dressing room before the fight, KO's in sparring, problems in camp and all the other stuff. He had his man hurt, went in for the kill and got caught himself. It happens and it's funny how none of these problems were affecting until the moment Ruiz caught him round the temple. People seem to forget he was looking good and beating Ruiz up until then. Same with Whyte last night. After that 4th Povetkin looked done and Whyte, quite rightfully, went into the 5th looking to finish him off. He's always been a bit stiff and immobile and relies a lot on heart and brute force to get by. Usually it works, last night it didn't.
Get what you’re saying but he didn’t go looking for Povetkin in that 5th. I saw no assertiveness from Whyte in that fight. There was 13 seconds left on the clock in that 4th round and it took him that full 13 seconds to lumber over and throw a shot (which missed) in the 4th when Pov was badly hurt. We can think of plenty of examples when 10-15 seconds was all that was needed to charge in and finish the job when a fighter’s been hurt. Due to that lack of action from Whyte, Pov then got a minute to recover somewhat and do a number on him in the 5th.
The arrogance and naivety from Whyte is astonishing. He genuinely thinks that was easy, he was bossing it and doesn't need to change anything. If Povetkin is forced to fight him again, I hope he levels him again.
While I'm not going to "go in" on Whyte, I think it's a little unfair and unnecessary right now, I will say this, It's Hearn that needs a slap, this card shouldn't have been PPV, Whyte shouldn't be headlining PPV events and I believe it does Whyte a disservice because people get resentful and don't like being force fed this crap. I believe Whyte has headlined (been in the main event) at 5 PPV events? Parker, Chisora, Rivas, Povetkin, AJ. Whyte hasn't even fought for a EUROPEAN TITLE, let that sink in, No European title fight, No world title fight but now a PPV fighter? Nope, I'm not having it. It's just not acceptable, it really isn't, if these are the main events and Hearn is charging PPV money then you need the main event to be more meaningful than a "big fight", we need titles, big titles.
Away you go Hearn has done wonders for his career. Whyte is a very good heavyweight he got caught with a world class punch
