Alexander Povetkin vs. George Foreman

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Who takes it?

  1. Foreman KO/TKO

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  2. Foreman Decision

    8.3%
  3. Povetkin KO/TKO

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  4. Povetkin Decision

    12.5%
  1. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holyfield is the only top 10 heavy Moorer beat in his entire career in which he expertly avoided the likes of Bowe, Lewis, etc That's pretty obviously a padded record and hardly needs further explanation.

    He probably fought Holyfield because beating him was the only way to gain a major belt and he viewed him as less threatening than Lennox Lewis.
     
  2. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Moorer going from 175 on to beat Evander Holyfield at heavyweight is a huge accomplishment. I don't think him failing to clear out the division at his size should be written off as a "padded record"
     
  3. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't see how him moving up in weight has any bearing on his unwillingness to face the top guys at heavyweight. The fact is at heavyweight he largely steered clear of dangerous opponents like Bowe, McCall, Lewis, etc.
     
  4. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Because he wasn't a real heavyweight and his goal was to be successful in his profession
     
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  5. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    You claimed moorer avoided big punchers.

    Then in your very next post you acknolwedge that he fought a prime Tua.
     
  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    A bad fighter he can come from behind and set up that right hand yes, Foreman did well at the end of that fight but was getting a boxing lesson for most of the fight, any puncher would have had a chance v Moorer.
     
  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    And look what happened.
     
  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Holy had something wrong with him in that odd fight that he lost to Moorer.
     
  9. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Prime Tyson would have destroyed Moorer with hooks:
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  10. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    He claimed Moorer ducked punchers. His record shows that this claim is 100% false.

    That is the end of the conversation.
     
  11. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He largely avoided punchers and the one he faced knocked him out, I think it's pretty simple really. Maybe its better to say mostly avoided punchers and the guys you could classify as punchers knocked him out.

    Not fighting Lewis, Tyson, Sanders, Ruddock certainly gives the impression he largely steered clear of punchers.

    He didn't even fight Tommy Morrison
     
  12. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    He did fight punchers. He fought Jirov, Cooper, Bean, Smith, Tua, and Foreman. All of these fighters have KO wins over good opponents and had high KO %.

    Therefore your statement is false. He did not avoid punchers. The fact Tua knocked him out has nothing to do with what you originally claimed.

    Show me evidence that he ducked Lewis, Tyson, Sanders or Ruddock. Were they EVER in talks with Moorer or negotiating to fight him? Were they ever his mandatory challenger? Did They ever even call him out?
     
  13. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bean never stopped anyone of note to characterize him as a puncher is positively silly. Jirov didn't demonstrate his power at heavyweight, again an odd choice. Smith was totally shot and no longer world class so again not a good candidate. Who are these good fighters stopped by the men in question? Smith stopped decent fighters years earlier when he was still in his prime, he hadn't stopped anyone highly ranked in years by the time he fought Moorer.

    My initial point regarding Moorer is that he has an extremely thin resume and the only guy he beat in the top 10 is Holyfield. Part of being a top level fighter is fighting the other top contenders. Otherwise, it basically defeats the purpose of the having the sport in the first place. If Moorer wasn't interested in fighting these guys maybe he shouldn't have become a boxer to start with.
     
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  14. Glass City Cobra

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    Now You are shifting the goal posts. You claimed Moore avoided and ducked punchers. Are you saying Tua and Foreman didn't hit hard? They are regarded as 2 of the best punchers in the history of the sport and he went out of his way to fight them. He did not have to fight Cooper either, who had very good power. Frank Bruno said Smith hit harder than anybody he faced, which would include Tyson and Lewis. So once again, you can write all you want until you are blue in the face. You're still wrong. Moorer did not avoid punchers. Period.

    I'm still waiting proof he "ducked" all those boxers you mentioned. I never see you post any videos or articles, you just ramble and speculate.

    It's very strange for you to question why Moore's ever became a boxer and to criticize his resume. You do realize he was moving up from light heavyweight and wasn't very durable but moved up a division anyway? If anything you should be praising him. This is even worse than criticizing Holyfield for moving up from cruiserweight. He was one of less than 10 men in history to capture belts at both light heavy and heavy and the first South paw to do so.

    Have you ever gotten in the ring and consistently fought men larger and stronger than yourself? If not, you should probably shut the **** up.
     
  15. Devon

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    You cannot box foreman in the middle of the ring or push him back if you’re the size of Povetkin, and Povetkin cannot fight going back, Morrison could, that’s why he won the fight, I don’t see Povetkin lasting long