Prime Floyd Mayweather vs Prime GGG and all GGG title opposition at 160. Who you picking?

My opinion. Take it or leave it.

People are irrational when it comes to Mayweather. He is nowhere near the greatest of all time but he is quite possibly the smartest.

 

The thing is SRR, Ray Leonard, Duran, Sweet Pea and a lot of other guys he's matched up against at these weights are among the very smartest themselves.
If Floyd has a 99-rating in 'smartness' in a video game style rating, most of these guys are in the high 90s too.

 

I don't see Fullmer's plodding and slow hands getting anywhere near Floyd. I could see that as a shut out for Floyd. Fullmer wouldn't do much against a prime Robinson either

 

Yeah everyone hates Fullmer despite his btilliant record.
People love Mayweather despite his bull**** manufactured record.
Are we assuming Fullmer has to dehydrate 25lbs?

 

Why is it with these hypothetical match ups, even if Floyd isn't the winner, he always has a chance, or a good shout, or it's very possible he wins.
Yet if it's Marciano or Calzaghe, they weren't that good, or they won 't have a chance, for whatever reason.
They all have unbeaten records, yet Mayweather lost at least once, Marciano and Calzaghe never did, Mayweather cherry picked his opponents more than the others.
Why is Mayweather seen differently? There are posters on this forum who genuinely seem to believe he would beat everyone from featheweight to middle weight over the last 100 years. It's preposterous.

 

These are my personal ratings with 75 being the lowest in a given category. This is for the 147 pound division.

Floyd

Punching Power: 83
Hand Speed: 94
Footwork: 96
Chin: 89
Accuracy: 95
Body toughness: 87 (hard to tell)
Head movement: 97
Body attacking: 94
Technique: 98
Stamina: 90
Strength: 89
Reflexes: 94
Defense: 99+
Cut/swelling: 94
Combinations: 88
Intellect/adaptability: 99+
heart: 90


Duran


Punching Power: 91
Hand Speed: 88
Footwork: 86
Chin: 92
Accuracy: 86
Body toughness: 95
Head movement: 93
Body attacking: 99+
Technique: 97
Stamina: 97
Strength: 94
Reflexes: 91
Defense: 88
Cut/swelling: 86
Combinations: 97
Intellect/adaptability: 94
Heart: 92


Leonard

Punching Power: 90
Hand Speed: 97
Footwork: 99+
Chin: 91
Accuracy: 87
Body toughness: 87
Head movement: 91
Body attacking: 88
Technique: 90
Stamina: 91
Strength: 90
Reflexes: 93
Defense: 86
Cut/swelling: 82
Combinations: 95
Intellect/adaptability: 96
Heart: 97


Sweat Pea

Punching Power: 85
Hand Speed: 93
Footwork: 97
Chin: 86
Accuracy: 89
Body toughness: 89
Head movement: 99+
Body attacking: 95
Technique: 97
Stamina: 94
Strength: 88
Reflexes: 96
Defense: 98
Cut/swelling: 90
Combinations: 92
Intellect/adaptability: 97
Heart: 90


Hearns:

Punching Power: 99+
Hand Speed: 92
Footwork: 89
Chin: 84
Accuracy: 91
Body toughness: 89
Head movement: 88
Body attacking: 90
Technique: 95
Stamina: 92
Strength: 94
Reflexes: 90
Defense: 87
Cut/swelling: 85
Combinations: 91
Intellect/adaptability: 91
Heart: 88


Pacquiao:

Punching Power: 92
Hand Speed: 99+
Footwork: 93
Chin: 94
Accuracy: 87
Body toughness: 90
Head movement: 88
Body attacking: 91
Technique: 90
Stamina: 93
Strength: 92
Reflexes: 89
Defense: 87
Cut/swelling: 85
Combinations: 99+
Intellect/adaptability: 88
Heart: 96

Robinson

Punching Power: 94
Hand Speed: 93
Footwork: 97
Chin: 97
Accuracy: 84
Body toughness: 94
Head movement: 90
Body attacking: 95
Technique: 94
Stamina: 99+
Strength: 93
Reflexes: 91
Defense: 88
Cut/swelling: 83
Combinations: 97
Intellect/adaptability: 98
Heart: 95

 

I always thought floyd had no business at 154. He looked more vulnerable at that weight. 160 wouldn't be a good move for him.

 

This doesn't seem far from reality, certainly in relation to each other.
What is meant by technique here?

 

Don't think I'm so sure of SRR having the least accuracy of the guys here, on film he looks to have the best punch placement of them all and I can't imagine his combinations and footwork being improved upon. Equalled perhaps, but not topped.
That's by the by anyway and this would be an interesting way to try and gauge fighters.

 

THIS. ALL DAY THIS.

 

By technique i meant each fighter's form when throwing a punch along with their balance, leverage and overall effectiveness in terms of pure aesthetics and mechanics. As if a judge was scoring someone shadow boxing.

I don't think Robinson's accuracy was "bad", I just think that he fought in an era where the boxers were more quantity over quality in terms of overall ring IQ, athleticism, and (especially) defense. Many guys were flat footed swarmers with no head movement or barroom brawlers. He looks sharp as hell partly for that reason. He was head and shoulders above 90% of his competition in terms of being a prototype for the "sweet science" that later generations were able to study and mimic--somewhat similar to how Joe Louis was vastly superior to much of his competition due to his unprecedented level of technique.

Robinson's Footwork was excellent and I gave him a 97. Again, I think that's very fair and flattering considerin he's tied only with Whittaker and only Leonard is above him at 147 imo. He had fairly mediocre competition (on average) to prove his footwork against. He was very fancy and agile but I feel like Leonard took what he did and improved upon it a bit in terms of actual effectiveness, avoiding getting hit, and setting up his punches.

As for his combinations, again a 97 is nothing to scoff at that's an A+. The only one ranked slightly higher is Pacquiao because he was a machine gun who could unleash a furious flurry of 8-12 punch combos even late into the 12th round. What's the problem? My only minor nitpick of Robinson's combinations is he would sometimes trust his hand speed and chin to a fault and wouldn't always bring his hands up after each punch. He also on rare occasions didn't straighten his punches out or didn't get as much leverage with his legs as he could up close or while gliding around on his toes (a habit his admirer Ali would pick up on).

Keep in mind a score of 85 would be an average B level fighters overall rating, a 75 would be a C level boxer, a 65 would be a journeyman, 55 a tomato can.