Tony Bellew wants to change cruiserweight limit to 190 and make a new ‘super cruiser’ class at 220.

Boxing has enough weight classes. Cruiser barely gets any attention as is, adding more divisions, even if it makes sense in this case, would just give us another division that no one cares about. You have to draw a line somewhere and I’m cool with the classes staying where they are. Let’s fix more important things like rooting out corruption in the alphabet soup sanctioning bodies, etc.

 

I just don't like the idea of dividing the talent onto yet another division.

 

Yes the size of one's skill is indeed the most important.

That's why I pick Crawford to beat Brook.

 

As if giving the ability for a bunch of 220 pound guys to drain down to 200 to avoiding fighting at heavyweight where they belong we now have people advocating that we give 230-240 pound men the ability to drain down to 220 to do the same thing. For what? Why not just have a maximum weight in place at heavyweight?

 

Can't say I'm really surprised, but still don't understand the resistance to this from many here.

Some act like this is some evil conspiracy to charge more fees or dilute the bigger fighters. Other talk about fighters bulking up to the higher division, others that fighters will dehydrate to make lower weights? Doesn't that occur now without SCW? Some use cheery picked examples from decades ago. Guess what 185-95# HWs from the past like Dempsey, Marciano, Patterson are not competing or winning the HW title in the 2000s (most likely not in 90s). 200# Jack Johnson or Joe Louis aren't either. Today they're CWs and they very well might win that title, but they're not beating LL, K bros, Fury, AJ, DW, and frankly many other top recent/current HWs. Some say this is a "manufactured" weight class. WTF does that mean, aren't they ALL manufactured. Or are some here using words to mean the new weight division I don't like?

I thought a good bigger man beats a good smaller man was well known in boxing. In other words similar skill big beats smaller. It's really just common sense.
Look sooner of later they're going to either create SHW -or- SCW and bump up HW to ~230+. When they created the CW division it was at least 10 years overdue.

 

So you agree that weight the most important?

excellent.

 

I am pretty sure that a big part of denying this simple truth comes from
1. Never having boxed before in your life and just not understanding that being bigger not only means that your arms are only longer and that you punch harder
2. i think a lot of guys just get satisfaction from believing or seeing that a small guy can beat a big guy cause a lot of those people are short in real life and just get some super weird kick out of that. So many people were so pleased when the fat little guy ruiz beat the big body builder/athlet.

i am not tall myself with 6‘1 by the way so i am not biased or anything.

 

The weight of one's skill set, yes.

 

skill cant have weight.

 

However you want to measure a skill set will do.

 

We actually have 17... It's ridiculous.

 

I think both are in play. Look I tend to think AJ is a cool guy but I "got a kick" out of seeing fatso Andy stop AJ. I'm sure you saw the comments on UT vids of the fight. Example: I'm going to eat some tacos now,... I'm going to cancel my gym membership, etc.

The other big factor is many fans are too nostalgic. They want to think the smaller HWs from the past can beat today's HWs. No f'n way. But when it comes to HWs they act like size is almost no factor and come up with oddball examples to make their case.

 

Why the hell would Wilder want to fight for this title?

 

Tell that to Povetkin and Dillian Whyte.

 

I'm not agreeing with you there's 3 sides to the truth. Marvis Frazier's, Tony bellows and the sanctioning bodies actual on paper laws for weight classes. The reason I disagree comes from good care, I hate to see fighters hurt but in this philosophy why then doesn't a jr jr welter fight a lt heavyweight? In that case they have more speed more mobility? But I do respect every little heavyweight and if they feel at home at HW than that's worth more than my opinion.