I think Patterson could stop a weary Lyle. I rate Patterson as a harder puncher than Ali. You didn't have to be a Foreman in terms of power, to stop Lyle.
Foreman vs Lyle (overrated) I will leave alone for this thread. I guess I don’t find Lyle all that powerful skilled or good. So to keep it short, I don’t think Lyle has the skill to land solid enough. I wouldn’t rule out a KD, but no one really kept Floyd down either, and Lyle is doubtfully IMO going to become the first to do it.
Jerry Quarry beat Ron Lyle by unanimous decision on Feb 9 1973. I think that Floyd Patterson would do the same to Ron Lyle, especially if Floyd was champion. Floyd defended his title against Tommy Hurricane Jackson in 1957, and Pete Rademacher, same year. Roy Cut N Shoot Harris in 1958, then Brian London in 1959, prior to his ill fated match against Ingemar Johannson. Floyd being the quicker boxer would have fought Lyle very cautiously under the guidance of Cus D Amato. Floyd would have utilized his Peek A Boo style to avoid the right hands of the hard hitting Ron Lyle. It goes the distance, Floyd Patterson by unanimous decision.
Lyle is no Liston. Lyle lacks both Liston’s was ring awareness and isn’t an accurate puncher like Liston was in his prime. Lyle has a chance and might even floor Patterson, but I see Patterson outpointing Lyle.
Well, I can't agree with you, but I can see that based on Lyle' accomplishments, I can see how you would doubt that Lyle could beat Patterson.
Lyle could have certainly caught Patterson but it would take a sustained onslaught to finish him. I think Patterson's superior skill and speed would be too much for Lyle to cope with.
But we can hardly say the Swedish guy was anything special. Came along and caught Floyd and yes, grabbed the title. But one of the poorer champs imo.
It depends how you look at it. Like Lewis Ingo retired having beaten every man he ever fought. he flattened the best two heavyweights in the world when they were both highest regarded when neither had ever been knocked out before. it was an unusually short career for a champion...too short to go down as anything all time great worthy...but good enough to stand up as well as anyone up to that point of their career.
I can't look at him being really anything but an extremely luck European heavyweight tbh. Obviously he hit the jackpot against Floyd but that was it, if he'd gotten a second win over him then maybe different. Yes he left with just two defeats but he didn't have that long a carer so there is that to. Poor Floyd was the guy who copped it but I don't see Ingo having the same success against the majority of young champs.
I couldn’t agree more, but Lyle was a contender in the 70s so it goes without saying that he’d get slightly overrated because he was from the golden era. Prime Patterson bests him. Patterson from the 60s is a good competitive fight, with solid cases for either man.