George Foreman 1973 vs Mike Tyson 1988, 15 Rounds.

WTH!! Coming straight ahead is the only way Tyson ever fought! What's he gonna do, stick and move? Are you serious,? he's going to wait on Foreman? he's gonna be right in front of George waiting on him? See how waiting on George worked for Moorer against a 46 year old Foreman. Geez he couldn't get to Bonecrusher Smith because he was too strong, George was twice what Smith was. Styles make fights, and a short armed 5' 11 slugger who comes straight in throwing hooks on a 6'4 230 pound man who's the hardest punching heavyweight champion in history is a recipe for destruction. The only difference in a fight with Tyson vs Foreman compared to the Frazier fight is Mike won't get up 6 times.

 

2nd time asking now, can someone explain to me what Tyson does when he realizes he has to fight backing up?

 

I can. He loses.

 

He's the smartest of all die-hard Tyson fans I've seen on any site tbh, I wish more people were like him because they give us Tyson fans a bad look.

 

Sangria is much more than a Tyson fan, he has valuable opinions on plenty of other boxing subjects.

Nothing wrong with having a favorite fighter, Holmes is mine and I probably stick up for him too much lol.

Completely with you, my respected friend.

 

Though I believe George would win this, one thing I find interesting to conjecture is how George would take a flush Tyson shot.

I would say Mike definitely hit at least as hard as Lyle, and was overall faster. He was also a tremendous finisher...Lyle sometimes faltered in that area. In the 70s George could be knocked down (even out).

I'm not just feeding grist to the mill, just openly speculating. George would do all he could to get up if he got knocked down, and I imagine he could just bully Mike around and tie him up. But Mike was a cyclone after scoring a knockdown...

more food for thought.

 

You're a good one as well.

 

Well people keep talking about how you had to hammer Tyson upside the head several rounds to take him out but the same applies to foreman. Ali had to make him miss, gas him out, lean on him and clinch, and counter with dozens of right hands and combinations in hot outdoor weather before george finally slowed down..

The thing people fail to mention is how George literally walked through ali's shots anf showed him no respect the entire fight. That shows that he not only had a bath tub for a chin, but showed how incredibly mentally tough and determined he was to knock Ali out. His head would literally get whipped and twisted halfway around with sweat flying off his afro and his expression wouldn't change, he'd just swing again.

The other thing people don't talk about is Ali and Foreman were trading shots: Ali had to endure some of the most brutal body shots to land his lightning fast combinations and counters (which were more like dual exchanges). The ropes and Ali's head movement/slipping at the last second helped minimize the damage too. When did Tyson ever take a sustained beating to the body, or any serious body shot for that matter? It's a very relevant question.

All I'm saying is slugging it out or attempting to win by ko against foreman seems like a counter productive plan at best and suicidal at worst. Ali's win was a 1/100 gamble and he knew it.

As for Tyson being a superb finisher, this is true. But read above: Foreman doesn't clinch, cover up, or run when he's hurt. If tyson rushes right at foreman there's a good chance he is going to get mauled and it wouldn't be pretty. As you said, foreman always got back up and has gotten off the floor to win. Tyson didn't. Statistics say you wouldn't be safe betting on Tyson in that situation, especially if he gets knocked down as well.

 

So Tyson comes straight in? Never moving his head? Never firing shots in return? He's just a sitting duck? Why are you comparing Foreman to Bonecrusher? I've already stated that Foreman wouldn't tie Tyson up in close like Boneclutcher-hugger. He'd be swinging for the fences while trying to measure and time Tyson coming in. It will work at times as Foreman will land but it also leaves him open for return fire. And Foreman will definitely be aware of that. Tyson's power in on par with Foreman's.

Tyson fought power guys his entire career and is proven against them. During Foreman's prime he faced one guy with power rivaling his own - Ron Lyle. You can add Joe Frazier if you want but Frazier absolutely needed to get inside where Tyson has shown he could land from the outside with overhand rights. Watch his decimation of Trevor Berbick.

You still believe this as gospel? All I can say is I've spoken with Steve Lott, not only about this but about the Frank Lotierzo article stirring up a mega-fight, and he's gone on record saying Cus never told Mike that Foreman was all wrong for him.

 

I appreciate the kind words SS. It takes a wise Tyson fan to know one. Others have stated before that being a Tyson fan used to be taboo. But you can find tremendous posters on this forum that are more knowledgeable, guys like Ironchamp, Lefthook31 and Prime. Look them up when you can. I think they visit this place from time to time.

 

Thanks again for the kind words my man. It's a pleasure debating with another true Holmes fan like myself (my 2nd favorite hwy after Iron Mike).

 

Well Tyson hasn't really been pushed back, has he? Not in his prime. I think Berbick was the only guy who tried in the 80's. Ruddock couldn't even push Tyson off him the entire fight. Neither did Bruno. These are big guys who had no other option but to tie Tyson up in close.

 

Lie.
Tyson was pushed back by bum Buster Douglas and lost in his prime.
He was almost out against Bruno who was poor man Ron Lyle according to Bugner and Foreman is twice stronger than Lyle.
Berbick was nothing but Ali type of boxer with weak KO percentage and glass jaw.He was stopped by every good fighter and by glass jae bum Bernardo Mercardo in 1st round.
Tyson was pushed back also by Bonecrusher Smith a bum who started boxing at age 28 years old.
Bruno almost had Tyson out twice.
Foreman>>>>Lyle>>>Smith>>>>Bruno.
When Foreman staggered Tyson early he would finish him.