I'm not convinced that Prime Foreman hit any harder than Lennox Lewis

Lewis is better than him in every way, but I think Foreman had a bit more power, but Lewis punches were faster, he set them up better, was better at range and in close, but foreman had more power because of the way he fought and he always fought that way, looking for the ko punch and loading up on every punch, so he will have developed more power along the way because he trained more for power than Lewis, Lewis trained more on the technical side and would’ve done explosive training, but it wasn’t his main focus, his main focus was learning how to develop his style which was a boxer puncher, where as Foreman could box decent, but was more focused on power and getting the knockouts

 

You might want to watch the fight again because Lewis was doing his usual cautious jab and clinch tactics and Steward had to yell at him to get him to actually sit down on his punches and let his hands go. He was not "constantly" hammering away at Tyson for 8 rounds with 100% power punches.

The other thing you like to ignore is that Lewis was older and had been in more wars than Tyson, which is typical biased hypocrisy. Lewus was chubby and in his late 30's with a reserved style fighting on the outside on the back foot by the time he fought Tyson. That is an entirely different opponent h2h than a guy like Foreman who will be on him like white on rice fighting on the front foot and letting his hands go. Foreman used a lot more physicality and rough house tactics than Lewis and was more eager to KO the opponent. Lewis usually only went for the knockout if the opportunity presented itself. There is absolutely no similarity whatsoever between Foreman and Lewis other than them being black heavyweight boxers who happened to hit like a truck.

Tyson fans have no evidence of him getting nailed hard and bouncing back to winning a fight so that's why they cherry pick moments of his career to hype up Tyson for h2h discussions. That's why you and others are obsessed with the Lewis fight even though he lost.

This is about my 3rd or 4th time pointing out this hypocrisy to you. If I point out that Tyson got beaten like a drum against Douglas and Holyfield you will cry about how Tyson was past his prime and not at his best but are perfectly willing to use one of his last fights when he was pushing 40 to show he could take a hit.

Nobody said Foreman would "instantly" KO Tyson with a single clean punch. You are using a straw man to make everybody sound ridiculous and putting words in their mouth. I have literally not even seen the most die hard Foreman fans make that claim, including the recent thread.

As for Ali, Foreman punched himself out in hot outdoor weather. He was walking into shots and getting hit by counters and combinations while--and this is crucial--attempting to land his own shots. In other words, he was trying to win from start to finish.

Tyson made a spirited attempt in the 1st round and then simply took his beating like a kid on punishment. Like David Tua he submitted and wasn't making any further attempts to rush in and go for broke. I don't think Douglas and especially Holyfield hit significantly harder than Ali if at all. In fact Foreman said in a tweet Ali and Holyfield hit about the same.

And Tyson had 5 stoppage losses while Foreman had 1 despite having worse defense, speed, and head movement in a career that was nearly twice as long as Tyson's. Whoever reads it can make of it what they will and I'm not implying anything by it. Just stating what happened.

 

There was a poster on here who sparred both men and said Foreman hit harder. He also sparred Bowe, Tua and Wlad his threads are around somewhere.

 

This. For sheer brute force, George had it all day over LL. But in terms of sharpness and wicked twisting, Lewis.

 

I feel sorry for whoever that poor dude is.

 

One could make a similar apples-and-oranges comparison of Sonny Liston and Larry Holmes' jabs. Liston was more bludgeoning (though also surprisingly precise and very long) while Larry's (though it definitely had that stepped-into power) was more twisting and...I guess you could say artful.

 

Came to say this, people also remark that Shavers hit harder but they always mention the heaviness of Foreman’s punches as being a different feeling Shavers the poleaxe, George the War hammer?

 

It's like asking "what's deadlier, a mamba or a Fer de Lance?" I mean, how can it really matter?

 

>Tyson chin=too good
>yet was stopped by 2 men who aren't even on any top 50 punchers lists
>yet is tied with Patterson and Wladmir for being stopped more times than any other lineal champion and never got off the floor to win.

Ok.

Believe whatever you want.

 

That's more or less what Leroy Caldwell said. Shavers was more explosive and felt like a cracking whip or a grenade going off making your head ring and go blank immediately while Foreman was more thudding and felt like a sledgehammer or refrigerator going right through you due to sheer mass and weight.

Pretty much everyone who fought or sparred Foreman said that his punches had the most force and weight behind them and it moved your whole body even if you blocked.

 

Not much at all between them best punch for best punch. Foreman more powerful on the left side imo. When Lewis was in attack mode he decimated some pretty good fighters in the blink of an eye.

Both are top 10 heavyweight punchers ever. If we look at Rings greatest punchers list and 190+ pound fighters Foreman came in at #2 and Lewis #8 remembering the list is "greatest" not simply the most powerful. McCall said Lewis was the hardest puncher he ever faced and he sparred a helluva lot of rounds with guys like Tyson.

I'd have no problem with people saying Foreman as the man was a monster. Saying there is a big difference between the two however is ridiculous imo.

 

Foreman's greatest strength was his freakish strength not punching power (as so many said his punches were more thudding than explosive). Lewis was a better puncher when you factor speed and technique but George was the strongest fighter of all time.