Witch fighter gets the most overrated on this forum?

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  1. Greb & Papke 707

    Greb & Papke 707 Active Member Full Member

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    What fighter that gets mentioned on here do you think gets overrated? Personally my pick is Jack Johnson, I’ve seen threads saying he’d piece up Rjj, Tyson, Ali, Louis, Klit, Frazier ect, I’ve watched as much Jack Johnson footage as I can find and I have a hard time seeing him beating pretty much any heavyweight champion that succeeded him with exception of a few
     
  2. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    Tyson Fury his opponents are hardly hall of famers
     
  3. BoxingDialogue

    BoxingDialogue Well-Known Member Full Member

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  4. WAR01

    WAR01 In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Lennox Lewis
    He beat Vitali and a bunch of Tyson left overs and old men, big deal he didn’t even dominate some of his lack lustre competition.

    Jack Johnson...
    Newspaper men and authors said he was the best fighter they ever witnessed? I have film he looks garbage how could he beat Foreman? Fraizer? Ali? Tyson?
    He’s historically great yes, nothing amazing H2H.

    Larry Holmes
    Good but he isn’t the H2H HW GOAT people make him out to be at times, he beats most champions just not all he struggled with Snipes for god sake and Terrible Tim? Let’s not go there.

    Max Baer
    Garbage, no form crap fundamentals just how does he get love? You would think Braddock was the only man who beat him with the Cinderella man talk but nope he won plenty and lost plenty but was an all round gentleman no hate on him as a man.

    Rocky... you know which one, where not talking about him everyone has one reason or another to overate and underate him.
     
  5. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Baer overrated? 90% of the forum call him terrible and say he won only because he was big for his era (which is bullsh**).
     
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  6. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    Tyson,Lennox and Liston.
    Johnson,Baer and Marciano are underrated.
     
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  7. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins
    McCallum
    Toney

    10,000 little fellers weighing 115 or less
     
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  8. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jack Dempsey
    Rocky Maricano
    Mickey Walker
    Tyson Fury
    Gene Tunney
    Jersey Joe Walcott

    There's some more that are potentially overrated, but they don't really get mentioned enough to be completely, one hundred percent overrated. Heavyweights get all the shine in that regard.
     
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  10. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't do that to Mickey!

    Walcott is a good mention, some people act like he's top 15 HW ever and his style is very exaggarated here. I like him, but he's not close to that.
     
  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Welterweight Walker is one of the most overrated fighters of all time IMO.

    I love Walcott, and think he's one of the best counter-punching heavies ever, but his footwork, skillset speed get ludicrously overrated. There's myths about controversial decisions, state of depression he was in pre Louis, and the entertainment value he brought. Some say he has the second best footwork of any HW, he doesn't even have the second best of his era! Very overrated IMO, and as petty as it sounds, I feel like it's just a way to bolster Marciano's resume.
     
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  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    All the great and borderline great heavies are overrated by some; but they also have violent haters who sort of average things out IMO. Mickey Walker is probably the right mention below heavy, though of course he also fought at heavy which is actually what has fortifies his MW and WW standings.
     
  13. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ali- No one beats a Prime Ali
    SRR- No one beats a prime Robinson
    Duran- same as above and it seems he does “everything better than everyone else”

    on a lower level
    Wilfredo Gomez-

    and of course anyone who falls in love with “who hits the hardest”.
    Julian Jackson
    Carlos Zarate
    David Tua
    Ron Lyle
    Ernie Shavers
    Etc.

    I am sure there are others. And I do not disagree with the greatness of most of these names, I just think their greatness gets overstated on this forum.
     
  14. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with that list
     
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  15. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Think Tyson gets extremely over rated. People think he didn’t have holes in his prime...he did people just didn’t expose it till they did.
    FOTC Frazier...Frazier was a great fighter on his own but for some reason people think FOTC Frazier is some mythical unicorn that can be pulled out to beat anyone.
    Liston is drastically underrated partially his own fault w those Ali fights.
    Mayweather is underrated. People just don’t want to give the man the praise he deserves (no I’m not Floyd). Should be in anyone’s top five ever but often is left out of top ten lists. Some don’t even rate him top ten in his own division.
    Last but not least my man Marciano. Good lord some of u r crazy. He would lose to everyone ever if they weighed more then him. Not logical. He also gets over rated by some admittedly.