Cotto compared to Lujan

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  1. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Why is that funny? Sam Soliman moves his head far more than Floyd Mayweather. Who's head movement would you consider better? Who is the better defensive fighter?

    I think it is an extremely valid point.
     
  2. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    That was self explanatory for anyone with a brain who knows the first thing about boxing.

    BTW, self explanatory means "no need for explanation."
     
  3. Shifty107

    Shifty107 The MARVELOUS ONE! Full Member

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    :deal

    As simple as it gets. Even a ****** like you can understand that reasoning, rafael.
     
  4. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Whoever you want it be MSTR. That much is obvious. Cotto is your favorite fighter and he's a popular star, therefore it is not possible that another fighter who is not your favorite fighter, and who is not a star, could be superior in any individual area - let alone several.
     
  5. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Easy on the insults, Shitty107.
     
  6. Shifty107

    Shifty107 The MARVELOUS ONE! Full Member

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    You've got me there m8. I'm stumped. I have nothing to say to that brilliant put down.



    Meanwhile, in the real world, this whole forum is witnessing how intelligent you are at debating the sweet science. :good
     
  7. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Another one? Exposed as a fool and upset about it, eh? I think everyone can see that. No need for grandstanding or crying for help, Shitty107. People can make their own judgements.
     
  8. Shifty107

    Shifty107 The MARVELOUS ONE! Full Member

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    You mustn't know how to read, or is your vision blurred because I 107Shitted all over you. :D
     
  9. Shifty107

    Shifty107 The MARVELOUS ONE! Full Member

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    Your still yet to give reasoning for your comments on lujan beeing better in these fields. I want actual factual facts.
     
  10. Shifty107

    Shifty107 The MARVELOUS ONE! Full Member

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    And by the way GENIOUS, "self explanatory" means that the statement you just made is so simple that it explains itself. Not No Need For Explanation. :deal
     
  11. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Watch the fight. If we were sitting next to each other on a couch right now this would be alot easier. We could debate the finer points. We could discuss the fighters movement, speed, reactions, ect.

    Do you have a copy of the fight? I'll go through it with you round by round and we can match it against any Cotto fight you like.
     
  12. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know this thread got hijacked, but the real question is, what the **** does it matter even if they are the same type of fighter? Cotto has shown to be a world class fighter and champion. Lujan has shown to be a journeymen or gatekeeper at best. How will this matter when Cotto fights Margarito?
     
  13. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Bad comparison. Solimon does not move his head that much. Evident by his getting tagged by right hands because he freezes after throwing a punch/combination.

    Watch how Mayweather tucks his chin, bends at the waist and rolls with punches. He had some of the most consistent head movement in the game.
     
  14. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    LOL, right. And it also means that it doesn't need to be explained. This is the literal and active use of the term. That is self explanation at work.

    Will you be checking my spelling and punctuation as well?
     
  15. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Soliman moves his head heaps. Have you even seen him fight, he moves it all over the place. However, his movement isn't precise, nor is his balance, hence the reason he gets tagged.

    My whole point was based around Mayweather being the superior defensive fighter, despite not moving around as much as soliman does with his head. The point being quality over quantity here. You have just unknowingly agreed with my post. You are so desperate it seems to agrue any point with me, that you are willing to side with anyone against me, regardless of the quality of their post. Good luck.