Best combination of speed and power per division.....

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  1. Johnny_B

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    Haye would have beaten Qawi.
     
  2. George Crowcroft

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    Haye struggled with the homeless man's version when he was dropped by Mormeck. Qawi would've lit Haye up.
     
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  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Qawi was harder to hit than anyone Haye fought, it would have been close and I don`t know if Haye could have stopped him, Haye really wasn`t that good.
     
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  4. Johnny_B

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    Haye more than had the power to take him out.
     
  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Yes but he would have missed more shots than he did v his other KO victims.
     
  6. Johnny_B

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    I won't dispute that, it is possible.
     
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  7. bcr

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    There's a way to know, asking the guys that faced him and faced top pros.

    Tyrell Biggs on his Ring Magazine Best I've Faced article:

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    Tyson: I’d have to go with Tyson. Tyson was in a different mindset in the 80s. No question, Stevenson was one of the best I faced in my amateur and professional career. I wouldn’t have been surprised if he’d won the title. He would have matched up well with Tyson, Lewis and Bowe. He was in that conversation. Tyson and Stevenson were great fighters.

    Gilberto Acuña who fought Frank Bruno as a pro, used to attend amateur tournaments and he told us that Teofilo hit him harder than anyone he ever faced as an amateur or as a pro.
     
  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I believe that part that was said about Bruno and fully belueve Stevenson could have knocked Bruno out in his respective era, but the rest you`ve said is vague, Lewis hadn`t reached his peak when he fougt Biggs and was missing throwing loads of shots.
     
  9. bcr

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    And Stevenson was old and slow when he fought Biggs and still broke his ribs, 20/24 year old Stevenson would have put him into a coma.

    There's a reason why people were so high on him, you look at a guy like Edgar Berlanga and even if his resume isn't impressive it's clear that his power is different from the rest of guys at his current level. If King, Arum, Steward, Foreman and Dundee said that the guy had world class talent it was for a reason, even if he didn't turned pro it's clear that he had a special mix of speed and power.
     
  10. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Didn`t some fighter suffer a cracked rib tonight? Does that mean they have super power like Stevenson, and why would Teo puts Biggs in a coma when he never put anybody else in a coma?
     
  11. bcr

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    Yeah, we should ignore the fact that the guy knocked out a bunch of future champions and contenders and act like his only feat of power was breaking Bigg's ribs. Is not like Biggs himself, who actually fought world class pros, said that the guy had the goods. Is not like George Foreman himself said that he was one of the best fighters he ever saw and that he could become heavyweight champion if he wanted.

    You're saying that what Biggs said wasn't that relevant because Lewis wasn't at his best when he fought him but when I say that Stevenson wasn't at his best either you pull some weak ass argument of a guy that got a cracked rib yesterday as if Stevenson didn't won the 1972, 1976 olympics and 1974 world amateur Championship without reaching the distance once. It doesn't matter if it is amateur boxing, you need a certain kind of power to do that, that's the reason why world class trainers and fighters praised him.
     
  12. bbjc

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    The scary thing is all of them barring hearns could have all fought each other say around 1993. All being not far off of primes or there abouts.
     
  13. ETM

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    HW. Tyson
    CrW Holyfield
    LHW Charles
    SMW Jones jr
    MW Jones Jr
    JMW Hearns
    WW Robinson
    LWW Pryor
    LW Duran
    SFW Mayeather
    FW Nelson
    SBW Junior Jones
     
  14. JohnThomas1

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    He did have a great blend of speed and power. He's a fine mention.

    What Holy did at heavyweight is irrelevant here tho. Haye usually stopped his guy at cruiser.

    So fast and powerful wasn't it!!!!!!

    He don't fit. Don't get me wrong he could punch a bit at those lower divisions.

    KT *clap clap clap* KT (clap clap clap) *rinse n' repeat*

    Well that changes everything :thinking: :lol:

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    Lets call it neutral for today mate.
     
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  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Taylor never scored any one punch KO`s, I didn`t rate his power that much.