[GIF] Carnera KO Sharkey Fake?

Clearly by going out in the most violent fashion possible, I can’t believe people would even argue that this is a fake KO.

 

I'm going for real.

 

Saint Preem creems your pants doesn’t he?

 

No.

 

C r e e m

 

I think it's fake You can't see the punch land because Carnera's back obscures it. From the positioning it looks to me that it was probably his fore arm that made contact with Sharkey's chin.
Its circumstantial evidence, but we know Carnera was mob controlled.
We know many of his fights were fixed
We know that Johnny Buckley, Sharkey's manager had ties to the mob.

We also know that Sharkey received 3 death and kidnap threats and to his children the last a week before the fight,following the last one he jumped in his car and raced from his camp in OrangeBurg NY to his home in Newton Mass,to check on them and no doubt reassure his wife.
We know that Carnera's training camp in Pompton lakes was swarming with underworld figures from Detroit's Purple Gang.
Before the fight Joe Williams boxing writer for the New York World-Telegram said," it was a peculiar match between an unpredictable ex sailor with an almost uncontrollable habit of tossing blows below the belt and a former circus strong man owned by hoodlums".

"Put on the hot seat,I would have to admit I wouldnt trust either one of these guys as far as I could throw the Empire State Building with my left hand.Which is another way of saying you can pick how you like I don't want any part of it" Williams.
Coupled with this I think Sharkey's reaction to the ko is very theatrical,he looks to me as though he is purposely ducking into the coming punch and exaggerating his reaction to it.Carnera never legitimately did that to anyone else and I don't think he did it to the Boston Gob.
Just my opinion, which I will take to my grave.

 

I don't think it's a fake.

 

This was discussed a few years back and my interpretation then was that it is a peculiar piece of action. I seem to remember viewing the clip, as close to a frame-by-frame playback as I could, at the time.

I think the oddities of the moment are only perceptible under close scrutiny. That is to suggest, a casual onlooker sees one boxer landing a hard right-hand punch on his opponent, with a match-winning effect - case closed. That is what a spectator expects to see.

On inspection, however, I don't think the motion, timing and reaction of both Carnera and Sharkey combined add up to the former having landed their right hand on the latter. Sharkey's movement seems unnatural, when the direction of the 'KO blow' is taken into consideration.

I tend to agree with the view of @mcvey and his interpretation of the action, in that I strongly suspect the forearm of Carnera is what made contact with Sharkey's face and that his subsequent jolt upwards and backwards is exaggerated.

I'm not able to deduce from the footage alone, as to whether the contest was rigged but, since having that closer look at it, I have found it difficult to shake what I perceive to be an oddity in the ending of that bout.

 

I cannot see it as being anything other than a legitimate KO.

One thing that this clip does not show, is that Sharkey was bouncing off the ropes when Carnera hit him.

That would be practically impossible to fake.

Sharkey just got hit by a couple of big punches that he didn't see coming, and got knocked out.

It happens!

 

Whomever says fake has not seen the reverse angle KO clip. It was legit. Sharkey was down 16 time in his career. He did not have a good chin,. Carnera nails him.

Look at Sharkey's eyes on the clip, they look to be are rolled up in his head, and he's falling before Carnera's second punch lands.

 

It's a forearm shot to the jaw. Maybe from a big fella like Primo enough to rattle your teeth but to ko someone?? Stranger things have happened in boxing but I just can't see that sort of shot knocking someone out.
And I've seen dozens of kos, the way Jack seem to throw back, it's fishy.

 

People here and in other boxing sites were saying Canelo's KO of Kovalev was fake,
which was crazy....

In this case, it's pretty clear to me that Sharkey was hit cleanly with an uppercut and a left hook that
were hard enough to knock him down. What Sharkey did after going down is another story, one
that we will never know unless Sharkey commented honestly about it post fight.

 

I dont think its fake. I just scanned this film to HD and whats not apparent in the clip here but is apparent in the complete sequence is that Carnera buzzed Sharkey a couple of times immediately preceding the knockout, Sharkey gets desperate, winds up with a peach of a right hand and nails Carnera. Carnera takes the punch well and then this clip takes place. I think Sharkey was hurt before this KO punch finished him off and if it was a fix I doubt he would have tried to cream Carnera with that right hand just before this sequence. I think he got hurt, got desperate, and then got clipped.