Minus Ali, Frazier and Foreman was the 70s really any better than the 80s

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Micheal was far harder to hit than Leon, he was crude as hell.
     
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  2. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    Michael was harder to hit but not harder hitter than Leon and wasn't mentaly tough as his brother Leon.
     
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  3. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ken Norton did dominate the 1970's as he broke the jaw of Muhammad Ali on March 31 1973 in a nationally televised contest. He did get stopped by George Foreman in Caracas, Venezuela on March 26 1974. But he reeled off victories over the likes of Jerry Quarry, and Jimmy Young. Joe Frazier defeated a come backing Muhammad Ali in one of the greatest fights ever on March 8 1971, in Madison Square Garden. Oscar Bonavena defeated some formidable contenders, Ron Lyle became quite a force during that decade. Earnie Shavers knocked out many, but suffered a first round knockout loss to Jerry Quarry on Dec 14 1973. Quarry also defeated Lyle on Feb 9 1973 by decision. Joe Bugner lost to Ali and Frazier in 1973 by decisions. Mac Foster was another good contender, and capable George Chuvalo was still around. Let us not forget Floyd Patterson and Jimmy Ellis.
     
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  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Total fights 46
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  5. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    But against who?Against heavies while Michael was not good hw.
    Check best wins of Leon against heavies and Michael.
    Leon was alot better.
     
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  7. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Am i correct in understanding we are removing Ali, Frazier and Foreman from the 1970's while also removing Tyson and Holmes from the 1980's?

    That leaves us with the cream of the crop from the 1980s:

    1. Tim Witherspoon
    2. Pinklon Thomas
    3. Tony Tucker
    4. Greg Page
    5. Frank Bruno
    6. Gerrie Coetzee
    7. Michael Spinks
    8. Bonecrusher Smith
    8. Gerry Cooney (i am picking Cooney as an 80's fighter because that is where he peaked)
    10. Michael Dokes
    11. Carl Williams

    1970s:

    1. Ken Norton
    2. Jimmy Young
    3. Jerry Quarry
    4. Ron Lyle
    5. Earnie Shavers
    6. Joe Bugner
    7. Oscar Bonavena
    8. Mac Foster

    Ellis and Patterson were past it by the time the decade began.

    Looking at the list above, excluding the big 5 from both decades, i would give a slight edge to the 1980's.

    To be fair, i will take Young and Quarry over most of the 1980's guys BUT the 1980's has more depth.

    The big difference is the 1970's guys were not underachievers. The 1980's guys were largely underachievers.
     
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  8. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    H2H, I don't think there's much to separate them. If there was a tournament where we put 80s fighters at their best and 70s fighters at their best, there'd be losses on both sides.
     
  9. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    True, the 70s weren´t that deep if you excluded the triangle. Its pretty hard to find some more better fighters in the 70s. Maybe Evangelista...on the other hand, you even missed Buster Douglas, Tony Tubbs, Mike Weaver, Trevor Berbick and Tyrell Biggs.
     
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  10. ronnyrains

    ronnyrains Active Member Full Member

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    70's were so interesting, a common sports person, could tell you the top ten, it was almost like following your favorite Football team. And where they were from.