GGG vs RJJ?

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Who Wins?

  1. GGG

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  2. RJJ

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  3. Draw/Can't Decide

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  1. KeedCubano

    KeedCubano Read my posts in a Jamaican accent Full Member

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  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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  3. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    GGG has a punchers chance but only a ver slim one. 19 times out of 20 Jones totally embarasses him and win a wide UD.
     
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  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Step too far for Golovkin.
     
  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    GGG had a better jab than anybody Jones beat and he threw it consistently, Jones would have a lot of trouble getting past the jab and landing, GGG would pin him on the ropes like Griffin did at times inhis first fight with Jones and Jones would just cover up, GGG is great at piercing the guard and GGG would take Roy`s shots better than Roy would take GGG`s.
     
  6. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jones and it wouldn't be even a tiny bit close.
     
  7. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cool story, Mark.

    I think you forgot to mention that it's a lot easier to control the Daniel Geale's and David Lemieux's of the world than it is to do so against a prime Jones.

    Golovkin is badly out of his overrated depth against Roy.

    Two different levels of fighter.

    The question isn't who wins. The better question is does Golovkin see 12.
     
  8. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No Golovkin fan can justify the fact that Golovkin struggled with the only two top fighters he ever faced.

    If you're goin life and death with Danny Jacobs and Canelo, you can disqualify your chances against Roy Jones
     
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  9. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So Triple G has a better jab than Hopkins? Toney? Hill? Johnson ? McCallum and Hill ? And In Hill that WAS his best punch,and his primary weapon though he had a good left hook. Ok Mark if you say so.....
     
  10. Xplosive

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    Golovkin, like Barry McGuigan, threw combos like Meldrick Taylor.
     
  11. 88Chris05

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    Easy to fall into the 'Golovkin's power against Jones' speed / skill' paradigm here, but I think there's a claim to be made that Jones is both the puncher and the boxer here. His stay at 160, particularly on the title scene, was obviously brief but his power was sublime there. It took one left hook to wipe out Thomas Tate - and Tate's chin had passed the Julian Jackson test not too long before.

    Either way, I just think we're talking about two different classes of fighter here. For many years I had sympathy for Golovkin, given how he was avoided by a couple of lineal champs at 160 and then didn't get a fair shake with the judges for the first Canelo fight. But in a sense all of that has helped enhance his bogeyman reputation and a myth has been allowed to grow to epic proportions. Very fine and dangerous fighter indeed, but not a patch on Roy. Jones can win this easily with a safety-first points victory if he wants, but I wouldn't rule out him actually carrying it to Golovkin and making him sheepish and negative as the fight progresses. I'll give GGG the benefit of the doubt and say he goes the distance, but I think he'd be looking a little red-faced (mixture of embarrassment and punishment) by the end and would have trouble getting off with anything significant here.
     
  12. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There's no argument when it comes to power IMO - Roy was a bigger puncher. Roy absolutely obliterated many guys KNOWN for their durability. Because we're talking 160, I'll cite one example - Thomas Tate. Tate goes the distance with Julian Jackson of all fighters. Roy ices Tate with one left hook.

    Golovkin never did stuff like that. Stopping the Curtis Stevens and Matthew Macklin's of the world isn't the stuff of legends.

    Does ANYBODY for a second think that Danny Jacobs would last the distance with Roy?

    Since this matchup is at middleweight, I'll say that Golovkin loses a wide UD, because Jones was still coming into his own.

    At 168, Roy's peak weight, I feel quite confident in saying Golovkin gets stopped.

    Golovkin should be a decided underdog against Ward and Calzaghe, let alone Roy frickin Jones.
     
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  13. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Has nothing to do with this considering he was at the end of his prime. Those two opponents are rated high and they still had trouble w/ a 35 year old Golovkin. GGG just hasn't fought anyone nearly as talented as RJJ. I like GGG but Jones Jr. would make him (and Canelo/DJ) look ordinary.
     
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  14. HellSpawn86

    HellSpawn86 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This definitely isn't GGG's power vs RJJ Jr speed, but it's GGG's style of trying to break down RJJ Jr elusive style. However it just comes down to underlying characteristics. GGG is a great fighter among middleweights, but RJJ Jr is a p4p great among atg fighters. In his prime RJJ Jr. had it all and would be hard to see anyone touching him in his prime. I think RJJ Jr stops GGG by the later rounds.
     
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  15. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    RJJ is not an p4p great among ATG fighters. The myth of Jones’s super humanity is just as large, if not larger, than Golovkin’s. If Roy Jones is Ali, then Golovkin is Hagler.
    What I’m about to say will make a lot of Jones fans squeal like scalded pigs, but there’s a lot of similarities and not too great a difference between RJJ and GGG. Ultimately, Jones reached higher heights and has a better resume, but his resume and achievements aren’t as great as Roy and his fans would have people believe. Not to mention that Roy’s fall from grace is one of the most epic and immediate catastrophic failures witnessed in sports...not just boxing, but all of sports.