Better entertainment value : Norton or Frazier ?

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  1. Colonel Sanders

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    Frazier for me
     
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    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No contest-Frazier. I would take Joe for excitement over everyone but Dempsey.
     
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    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Yeah, Frazier for me too. I actually find quite a few of Norton's fights overrated. I'm indifferent when it comes to the Ali trilogy, the Young fight or the late career fights with Cobb and Ledoux. Although I do really enjoy the Quarry and Holmes fights.

    Even so, compare Frazier's fights with Ali, Quarry & Stander. Much more enjoyable IMO. Then of course, Frazier has quite a few other awesome fights.
     
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  6. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Norton was in plenty of entertaining scraps, but not like Joe. Joe was ALWAYS in entertaining scraps.
     
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    Not even close. Frazier is one of the absolute most exciting fighters that ever lived - period.
     
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    Frazier. He was pure heart and excitement in his bouts.
    Winning or losing, he was guaranteed entertainment.
    A warrior in the ring, he could be killed in a bout but he would never give up.
     
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    Yes, in his own way, Norton pushed for action. I didn't want to belittle him. But Frazier added a dramatic element to his struggles, even when he lost. So I think he gave the best entertainment during his career.
     
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    Joe Frazier overall. But Norton’s fight with Holmes was excellent
     
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    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Close call. Might pick FOTC
     
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  12. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Personally, I love that fight, but you r right. It was a bit of a let-down in light of FOTC and later Thrilla. Ali held Joe 142 times, so it was his fault. Still a lot of good action in the early and late rounds though. I enjoyed the fight immensely, though I am in agreement. One of Joe's slowest fights.
     
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  13. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep. The Frazier camp. Who else?
     
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    I believe Eddie Futch, in his frustration with Ali's holding tactics, resorted to counting. I have never counted, but the number does not seem improbable.
     
  15. William Walker

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    I remember first time I saw anything of the fight was like a 5 minute clip of it, and about 3.5 mins of that was Ali holding.