Nathan Boreman

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Coming in looking like he's been nowhere near a gym during the last few months ,seriously overweight.Boreman was rubbish, slow, ponderous,and clumsy. He has found his level = John McDermott,waste of space. Too many good young heavies out there who are dedicated and wanting to improve.
    If he can't be bothered to get in shape ,I certainly can't be bothered to waste my time watching him!
     
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  2. Jurgen

    Jurgen Pay Per Pudding Advisor banned Full Member

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    I like the thread title - Nathan Boreman beginning to look like George Foreman in his late 40's
     
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  3. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

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    I understand what ir saying but I for 1 will give him another chance.
    The loss to Daniel took a lot out of him and maybe some of that carried over into last night.
    He got the rounds in if nothing else. Now he should settle in with a coach who has pro experience and especially with the HW if poss
     
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  4. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fat, slob, no excuses please.
     
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  5. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt considering that, but if he makes a habit of being in that shape I won't be paying much attention to him.

    I hope he was jut using that fight to get the rust off while getting back into shape, and he doesn't end up being an obese plodder.
     
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  6. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

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    I thought the weight might have worked for him, and made him more heavy handed combined with his speed and combinations...a little bit like Ruiz who doesn’t lose that hand speed and can throw in bursts. Instead, the weight just served to slow him down in all departments. If he turns up on the scales like that again for a tick over fight then II’m not interested.
     
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  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Why wasn't he in shape? What prevented him from being in condition?
     
  8. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Justeat
     
  9. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

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    There's no excuse really but the reason I'm guessing is that after the DDD fight he slid into depression. This, he has openly admitted, also the fury family has said that he took the loss bad.
    It's seen a lot in the pro ranks where an undefeated fighter who had a lot of momentum and promotion behind him takes a loss and it absolutely destroys their lives for months. It's a real phenomenon and one that takes a hell of a lot out of a fighter. They start asking a lot of questions about themselves and they also feel a lot of humiliation and inadequacy. I've heard story's where they don't come out of the house for months, it really can push them to the edge mentally.
    This is what has happened to Nathan. Now we don't know the exact timing of everything for his comeback. I heard that he lost 5 +stone for the larttey fight, so that means he come down from near on 25st. It probably was put to him that he can get on a show in 2 month, after he'd informed Frank that he was wanting to come back. He then had 2/3month to get himself ready.
    For whatever reason, he isn't working with Hatton anymore and he just went to the next best thing...his old am coach.
    They've done the best between them to get him ready for the lartey fight.
    I'm going to give him a squeeze for his prep on Sat night, he's shaken off the rust now and it's time to get back to business.
    Let's see how he comes back after this now. I'm sure he'll get things back to normal now.
     
  10. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

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    That’s a great post. I know from performing on stage that a bad gig can make you feel utter crap. You beat yourself up so bad because you care immensely about it, it defines who you are (loads of blokes feel defined by their jobs). Thankfully for me, only the people in that room see my capitulation, and I can gig the next night and put it right. For fighters, to invest months of energy both in training camp and to sell themselves (via tickets), to have a whole community behind you, supporting you to then get chinned....that must be absolutely awful. You can’t just jump in the ring the next night to put it all right. Johnny Nelson described it really well in his book.

    It’s a real test of a mans character to get chinned in front of what must feel like the whole world and then come back from it.
     
  11. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    I can totally relate to this

    Having been a pretty active DJ in the rave scene, a bad set can absolutely kill your confidence esp when starting out
    Same logic must apply to boxing and in fact all performance related acts
     
  12. Twentyman

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    That’s a cool job mate. Where did/do you gig if you don’t mind me asking?
     
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  13. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well said Twenty and Wizbit1013, very honest from you both.
     
  14. destruction

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    Too much booze Ricky Hatton style, and too much binge eating on junk food eating when hungover. He admits to giving up boxing following the DDD loss and then changing his mind to come back. So there was a good reason for the balloon in weight for his latest fight.

    I really rate Nathan, a very talented boxer and could have made it into the top 15 in the world. If he had maximised his talent.

    But I have now concluded that he does not have the mental strength, discipline and the fitness to make it.

    He will still be a real threat at domestic level and possibly European. But he wont go any further than that given his lack of discipline.
     
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  15. Accurate

    Accurate Jump back, wanna kiss myself! Full Member

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    I don't see the problem. He was in good enough shape to go the 10 rounds and win comfortably after a long lay off. Yeah when he steps up in competition he would be wise to improve his conditioning but evidently the shape he was in was good enough to do the job on the night.