So, Lomachenko Took 5 Rounds Off A Prime KO Artist With 1 Good Shoulder. Now That's Impressive!

So I'm not saying it's easy to walk away from $3 million if that's what it was. Obviously that's a ton of $$ for any regular person, but for a fighter even a 2nd tier $$ fighter like Lomachenko isn't worth risking your career health and the damage to your reputation as a fighter.

As a fighter who's comfortable financially, you got to not only think about the payday in front of you but future paydays that you risk by fighting injured. I mean what Loma did is almost like a fighter trying to cash out and just get one more payday before retiring. There's almost no justification for your defending him choosing to fight injured, which apparently was against his own father's wishes. So I'm not saying it's easy for any fighter to turn down a payday, it's never a good situation to be in - injured and about to have a big fight. But it's easier to walk away from when you're not fighting in a sold out arena, when it's during a pandemic, when you're been off for over a year and have an injury.

This fight could have easily been postponed until next year and we could have ended up seeing a better fight instead of what we saw which was 1 fighter fighting injured vs a prime fighter. Don't you get it - we were robbed of the fight we deserved to see because Loma and his team made the dumb choice to fight injured then to get surgery immediately after. You are on the wrong side of this argument. A fighter's health is paramount to future paydays. But I get the other side of it, the pride side, the side of not wanting to be called a coward for pulling out of a fight especially when it's a borderline situation where you convince yourself you are OK. I'm not saying it's an easy decision to pull out of a fight but the decision to fight and lose and then hear about injuries also has consequences. Sure he gets the $$ but he lost a lot of other things.

 

It's not irrelevant to find out in an article dated after the fight that his father advised him to pull out. You can't just say that's irrelevant if in fact it was true just because it was reported after.

But I see where you're coming from, that Lopez beat the man and his win shouldn't be tainted by Loma being injured. This is the problem with any fighter fighting with a serious injury. It's like Mayweather Pacquiao, we waited so long but we never got the fight that it could have been, the fight that we all dreamed of.

 

I think what bothers me the most is when you have fanboys still arguing that their fighter won even when we know he was fighting injured. Like when Pac himself and his fans still argued he beat Mayweather even while injured lol. To me this just shows incredibly blatant fanboyism and any semblance of unbiasedness is thrown out the window. And we see the same king of thing with Loma Lopez. Some still tried to argue Loma won, or called Lederman's card corrupt who had Lopez winning by a wide margin. It just screams fanboyism here, when even when you know your guy was injured, even when you see he clearly wasn't throwing for half the fight, you still proceed to claim he won or call the result a robbery. It's like come on already, you might as well walk around with a sign on your back that says "I'm biased as hell".

 

So you've never made any suggestion that an injury (that has come out post fight) has effected a fighters performance then correct?

 

Its a cop out. There was nothing leading upto to the fight to signify that there was an injury. Look at loma at the weigh in with that smirk he was giving lopez. He felt inside that he was going to go in there and school this kid. He admited he was 100% healthy and signed that he was injury free. Now all of a sudden he took a shot to help deal with the pain prior to the fight? There was photos leaked of him in the dr office getting his shoulder looked at and now these photos are leaked to justify that there in fact was an injury? Cmon man. Hes a sore loser and he wont admit that he underestimated this kid and lost fair abd square.

 

The point is he should of postponed the fight. This excuse was designed to take credit away from Lopez in the case he won. The guy was so confident in beating Lopez that a renatch clause wasnt even included in the contract.

Im almost 100% certain that had Loma won this fight, this excuse would have never surfaced.

 

Any fan clinging to the idea that their favorite fighter lost due to an injury that there was zero visible evidence of during the fight are absolutely pathetic. Especially after touting how the eastern europeans are all about "fighting for honor and not the check". Bull ****ing ****. He fought an equally talented fighter and lost. Own it and come back better like a true champion should

 

So you're claiming that he wasn't really injured. Really? And just as a comparison was there anything leading up to Mayweather Pacquiao to signify that there was an injury? Remember the same argument was made bout how Pacquiao was like raising his hands high in the weigh-in which proved he wasn't injured. This time it's a Loma smirk at the weigh-in. I just find it hard to believe that he wasn't injured, that the report that his Dad advised him to pull out was made up. And what about the surgery he had after the fight?

 

Pacquiao authored the 2 most significant sequences of the 12 round fight. And in those 2 sequences, he landed the most significant punches in the entire fight. Floyd was hurt and stunned; Pac never was. Okay, that's 2 clear rounds for him. But he was also tit-for-tat w/ Floyd the rest of the fight. Pac ripped him w/ hard counters to the body and head. Of course, Mayweather does his thing and lands glancing jabs and clinches over 20s with no warning and wheels away. It's shitty and it's boxing, but Pac was discredited by the work he put in on the simple basis that he wasn't aggressive (shoulder) as he normally is. But just because a guy doesn't fight the way he's expected to doesn't mean he lost the fight. Pac put in the better work. Floyd's own father glared at him dismissively and accused him of fighting scared after the 7th round. End of.

 

By the way, I totally agree that he should have postponed the fight if he was injured, and I also agree that we'd probably never hear about it if he won, but I don't think there's any doubt that he was injured. I just find it hard to believe that he wasn't injured given what we know now.

 

Actually, YES. Pac took some time off seemingly randomly. There were persistent rumors that Pac had injured himself. Ellerbe himself said that he knew Pac was having a "terrible" camp. And then later on, a sparring partner confirmed the injury and pause in training/sparring.

 

Im claiming that there was no injury leading upto the fight correct.. If there was any injury it happened during the fight.

 

Loyalty and respect are values Loma and team hold in high regard. If his father told him to pull put he would have done so. Thats what I believe.
He is also a very prideful person who is not used to dealing with a loss.

 

LOL OK we got a live one here. So Pac won even though he was fighting with 1 arm essentially. Loma won (or it was razor close and any judge who had it wide -Lederman- has to be corrupt) over Prime Lopez even though he had a shoulder injury so bad he needed surgery after the fight, literally didn't throw for about half the fight lol.

 

Hmmmm surely this can be verified one way or the other.