Should Loma fire his dad and hire Floyd Mayweather, Sr?

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  1. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He should invent a time machine and pick up Angelo Dundee (to protect him from the skulduggery by which he's been beaten) as well as various historic boxers in their primes. They would live in a commune, staging the most hotly debated fantasy fights.

    Gradually, with no more fantasy fights to debate we can devote the same energy to other pursuits and in short order there will be flying cars and a cure for baldness.
     
  2. aaalbert

    aaalbert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is true...
     
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  3. wutang

    wutang Active Member Full Member

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    All his shortcomings are in his thinking. Its not the goddamn amateurs.
     
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  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mayweather Sr could do wonders with Loma.
     
  5. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    How exactly? Please explain. Let's hear it oh long winded one.
     
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  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He could convert all that natural skill into boxing fundamentals. Loma has a very "Free" style, he doesn't work behind the jab, he's not a technician like he could be. He's elusive and talented but Loma hasn't mastered the art of war. Loma just uses his crazy reflexes and unparalleled footwork to get out of range and then explodes on people when he sees an opening. He doesn't have a concrete plan when he gets in there. Sr could teach Loma the fundamentals, working behind a jab. Loma's normal fight style works against B and C level opponents and he can make people look silly but against young hungry high-level lions like Lopez, Loma needs to learn how to approach a styles matchup like this and take his game to the next level.

    After the Lopez performance it's clear he's got issues. Injury issues, gameplan issues, etc. Sr could take that footwork and change his mindset around. Like new training techniques to help his shoulder recover, he can teach him new moves and how to be less predictable. It's obvious Loma's team is not nurturing his progress as a fighter. It's obvious his team is not pushing him to the limit. He in no way shape or form looked in peak physical condition vs Lopez, he looked like a B- version of himself and that's not gonna get it done vs guys like Lopez. To be needing another shoulder surgery after he got one like 2 years ago this is concerning. He needs to heal but after he heals he should find a new trainer imho so he can develop the training and gameplan to win a fight like this against Lopez. Mayweather Sr is one of the best and there's still time for Loma to turn around his career but he only has so many years as a fighter. He needs to have a sense of urgency and that means making improvements to his training being more efficient and a guy like Sr could teach him things his normal trainier wouldn't have a clue about.
     
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  7. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    That had something to do with his SHOULDER BEING ****ED UP. He usually as a very versatile and quite frankly... exquisite jab. Try not to base your review of Lomachenko on his performance against Lopez. Because yes... he was injured against him, whether you want to admit it or not. And when fighters are compromised, they're not themselves.


    Loma's fight style works against everyone, including Lopez for 4 rounds, when he actually went all out.

    Floyd Sr. brings zero to the table.

    Also, it's pretty clear his team is pushing him to the limit, otherwise, he most likely wouldn't have injured his shoulder in camp.
     
  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Loma was definitely not himself, did anyone have any inkling that he had a shoulder injury going into the match? I didn't hear about it. I know he has a good jab but what's concerning is that Loma would go into a match of this magnitude knowing that he was injured and couldn't use his normal jab if that was the case, which it sounds like it is.

    Well he usually starts slow, it worked for 4 rounds but only after Lopez threw a ton of punches and tired himself out to an extent. You can't take off the first 7 rounds and expect to win vs a guy like Lopez. From the opening bell you need to set the tone and make Lopez earn every punch he lands. Loma didn't do that, he made it too easy for Lopez. Loma did elude some shots but when you aren't landing it makes it harder to just be constantly elusive. You can only lean to the side and back away so many times before you become predictable. If you mix that in with landing punches it would have kept Lopez guessing. If Lopez was gonna just walk him down all night Loma needed to stick a jab out to keep him off. If he couldn't do that because of the injury he shouldn't have been fighting.

    We don't know that. And when I said Sr could push him to the limit I mean he could get the most out of him through new and more effective training techniques. Not necesarily training harder but training smarter. I just can't help but think his team is holding him back in some way from true greatness. And what do you make of the reports that his Father knowing about the injury and wanting him to pull out? If that's true and he's not listening to his Father's advice, then you have to question the communication amongst his team. His Father has done a tramendous job training Loma from an early age but we've seen countless examples of fighters at a point needing to break away from their Father training them. For example, RJJ, at one point, he realized it became detrimental to him as a performer to have his Father as a trainer.
     
  9. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    I wouldn’t trust an African American to train a Russian fighter, there’s probs between them
     
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  10. Aussie Invader

    Aussie Invader Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    irony...
     
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  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Lmfao!
     
  12. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    No Papa was doing just fine.

    Loma first has to be open with team, promoter etc if injured, and only fight when both upper limbs are in full working order.

    Secondly do not give free rounds away early on.
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Ridiculous comment
     
  14. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep, weird combo.
     
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  15. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    No, in general Americans can’t stand Russia especially competing. Look at this forum when Loma didn’t get the decision, pure glee. A black American trainer will have a part of them that wants a black American to win even if they are training the Russian...Facts pimp, you know that