Did Ali have Parkinson`s during his third fight with Frazier?

Just came across this vid about Ali`s Parkinson`s and it`s mentioned on the vid that Ali`s handlers noticed Ali had slowed down a lot in his third fight with Frazier in Manilla, they were very concerned, the man that diagnosed Ali with Parkinson`s in 1984 states on the vid that Ali`s loss of speed that year was probably down to him already having Parkinson`s, so was Ali already stricken by Parkinson`s during the thriller in Manilla?
1:17 Manilla condition is mentioned:

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Not sure if he had Parkinson's syndrome at that point, but I think it's safe to say he had slowed down due to age and traumatic brain injury. That fight worsened his condition, also.

 

It’s not unlikely that it could’ve began at this point. Parkinson’s gets worse over time so it might’ve been the beginning of the end for Ali at this point

 

I don't think so. He was still moving too well. He was slowing down due to age.

 

If he did have even early Parkinson s, then it's a testament to Ali's strength of character, again.
It's a terrible disease and even at an early stage, can be so debilitating.
So, as an answer, I'd say at that point no, but the fights he had certainly didn't help him.

 

No doctor, but his hand speed and coordination didn't seem bad at all for a nearly 34-year old with his wear and tear.

The really dramatic decline came after Manilla, visible in his very next fight.

 

I think that Muhammad Ali was far from peak performance as his prime 1960's form were long gone. But having to change his style following his 3 and a half year layoff from 1967-1970 did not help either. The wars with Joe Frazier, Ken Norton and having George Foreman land thunderous blows on him for 8 rounds due to the lack of mobility, caused a lot of neurological issues, as he continued to use the Rope A Dope against Earnie Shavers and an aggressive Leon Spinks in 1978. But he kept skating through the countless physicals given to him by namely the Mayo Clinic. There was big money to be made by promoting a Muhammad Ali bout. But the Parkinson's Syndrome symptoms were starting to show, slurred speech for example. He suffered the same affliction that fighters like Joe Frazier, Ken Norton and Jerry Quarry suffered, due to constant blows to the head.

 

Parkinson's actually starts from DNA (I learned this from his museum in Kentucky) . Ali's hard fought fights definitely caused an earlier onset.

 

Why aren’t people outraged that Freddie Roach was allowed to keep fighting?

If we’re looking for heartless villains (which is where most of the Ali Parkinson’s posts go), surely some of them lurk behind Roach’s mediocre career — he lost 5 of his last 6 and went something like 8-8 in his last 16 and no one put a stop to it.

Where are the crusaders?

 

I think that Muhammad Ali in retrospect should not have comeback in 1970, after being in exile. I think that he still had all his faculties. But ego and money played a big factor in him meeting champion Joe Frazier plus striking back at the establishment that took away his title during his peak years, in 1967.

 

No

 

His hand speed was far quicker v Foreman.

 

I still contend that Ali would have had a good run into the mid 80's... I had him beating Berbick. Weaver? Coetzee? A Holmes rematch? So much future denied.

 

I wouldnt doubt it the amount of damage Ali took is just frightening. As gifted as he was with his physical abilities the man had such an iron chin and will that no doubt greatly increased the diseases onset.

If anyone hasnt they should check out the Shavers fight. The shots he took would end careers and I have no doubt he left with considerable brain damage. They sound like shotguns landing and that was the later half of his career.

 

Hard to say, but Ali was definitely starting to have issues, since even his doctor started seeing problems after the Foreman fight. I remember reading an old article about Fredie Pacheco saying that after the Foreman fight he recommended that Ali not fight past 1975, which he said Ali initially agreed to, but with all the money on the table I can see why Ali decided to fight on.