Lomas surgery

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  1. bandeedo

    bandeedo VIP Member Full Member

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    lol, lighten up, man. just having a laugh.
     
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  2. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought you were beginning to lose it bro :lol:
     
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  3. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think this is BS. But I think the shoulder issue shows that Team Loma had become too arrogant, actually.
    So you're telling me you are going to fight a much bigger, stronger, younger fighter, with more KO power ... and then on top of that you'll take the fight not 100% physically fit?
    There's self belief and then there's a false sense of invincibility.
    This was idiotic.
    They learned that there's a limit to how many disadvantages you can absorb. But in the process, Loma has tainted his legacy again. The first pro fight opponent was also overconfidence. His two losses could have been avoided with a little more humble.
     
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  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Local anaesthetic, bro. And no that's not an issue. Doctors who do shoulder surgeries are not risk takers.
     
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  5. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Weird how he looked fine in rounds 8-11
     
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  6. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Did i state what form of anaesthesia was or was not administered?

    You say it was a local anaesthetic, which it could well have been, but do you know this as fact?, if so i accept your insight, but would welcome the source of that info regarding Lomachenkos operation.

    You state the "local anaesthetic" was "not an issue", now if you observe the image of Lomachenko post op you will notice that he is attached to devices that monitor his vital signs such as heart and blood pressure, why would that be? Because issues can arise because of anaesthesia or indeed body reaction to surgery itself

    Where have i stated the surgeon was a risk taker?
     
  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    You created a totally contrived scenario where Lomachenko was rushed into shoulder surgery and given risky anesthesia.

    It’s complete bull****. He had an elective procedure that the patient would typically be awake for. If he was allergic to the anesthetic, he would still have a reaction if he did the surgery next month.

    You are a fanboy.
     
  8. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Who is questioning the reaction to anaesthesia? you stated not issue, i merely stated facts to say ANY anaesthesia has issue hence vital sign monitoring.

    There is no surgeon or anaethetist who would CHOOSE to carryout a procedure under anaesthesia on a boxer who had fought in a 12 round boxing match 2 days prior if clinically avoidable, why would they? 12 rounds of boxing damages the body, any surgeon and anaethetist wishes to have a patient on the operating table who is as healthy as possible, Loma is not going to be fighting anytime soon so plenty of time for rigours/damage of the fight to mend after which elective surgery prognosis/clinical outcome would be increased.

    Where have i stated he was not "awake for" the procedure, or that he would possibly be as you put it "allergic to the anesthetic"?

    Where have i suggested he was given "risky anaesthesia"?

    Elective surgery, you have proof it was elective?
     
  9. ARMAGEDDON

    ARMAGEDDON Member Full Member

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    What happened in round 12 lol why leave that one out since lomo had took over and proved he was better? If anybody should have been tired in rd 12 its teo seeing he is the only one who punched for the first 6 rounds!!! So why didnt lomo prove he was the more skilled fighter in the 12 I'll tell you why because he didn't wanna risk getting embarrassed on live tv by getting knocked out which is exactly what would have happened had he tried to pressure from the beginning!!
     
  10. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So why did Lopez leave it till the last round? Why didnt he fight like that in the previous rounds?
     
  11. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Loma v Lopez was a close fight. Lopez did well, but the only periods of domination during the fight were by Loma. Anyone who says it was a schooling has an agenda, including Lopez and his team. Obviously, Loma didn't want further delays and would have been silly to let anyone know about an injury before the fight. I don't see Loma out there using the shoulder as an excuse but he needed the operation and he couldn't hide from the media. I don't think Arum or Lopez' team wants that rematch so it probably won't happen and will end up being viewed historically similar to the Salido fight, where he came in 4 pounds overweight and had a referee in his pocket allowing him to throw low blows without punishment, yet is crowned as a great achievement and proof of Loma as a hypejob; the sane boxing aficionados will know the truth in both cases.

    Loma probably moves back to 130 chasing fights with a who's who of duckers.
     
  12. bandeedo

    bandeedo VIP Member Full Member

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    still stuck in the first stage. take your time.
     
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  13. Bah Lance

    Bah Lance Active Member banned Full Member

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    I haven't seen the fight but that would actually support the shoulder injury talk. It very well could could have took that long for him to warm up and feel comfortable throwing it.

    I don't think any fighter has came back the same from a shoulder injury and he probably should have took a tune up.

    I agree with the guy who pointed out how arrogant Loma's team is.
     
  14. The Underdog

    The Underdog Member banned Full Member

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    Loma only let his hands go when Lopez started to gas in the 8th. When both guys had full tanks it definitely wasn’t Loma that looked superior.
     
  15. The Underdog

    The Underdog Member banned Full Member

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    Lol, please. You don’t think fighters warm up pre-fight?

    The shoulder definitely wasn’t the reason Loma didn’t throw for 7 rounds. That is pure excuse making.