“pointing out your fixation with a maybe milli- second lapses in Ali's judgment which he paid for by being put on his ass, that somehow that milli-second in your opinion encompasses the entirety of his 20 year pro career. Good luck with that litigation.......... Your going to need it” You can respond with the fact that Ali didn’t get knocked out and it happened to Lewis twice, just seems a little bit odd how this is an eerily similar situation. Especially considering Lewis maybe should have been given the chance to continue in his fight against McCall.
The difference is I'm not attempting to re-write history for my agenda..... The fight against Mcall may have been stopped prematurely .The fact is it was. But if he was as great as he's made out to be it shouldn't have happened in the 1st place.... Or in the 2nd place since it happened to him twice.....
But it's ok for you to bring up Karl Meldenberg a fight Ali actually won, though he struggled some. Unlike the the ATG's I pointed out that actually lost in their primes against opponents they struggled with. Little bias don't you think? I see it as bias from you in my point of view.
This is just an excuse. You cannot watch the video an conclude that I am "reaching." In fact, that is simple projection.
You are reaching when your main argument is a split second in Ali's career is your main focus. And you fail to acknowledge he fought much better fighters prior to and after the Cooper fight without anything similar happening to him. And if you actually watched the video it's plainly obvious he was clowning, and carrying Cooper until the round he predicted he would knock him out. He got blasted for his hubris and put on his ass rightfully so. But he also demonstrated the toughness that would eventually be as big a part of his career as his skills and physical ability.
It is not reaching at all. Most modern day super heavies would not go life and death with a mediocre 190 pounder, and that is not hard to understand. You are reaching.
You mean like how Foreman went life and death with ex light heavy Moore? Vitali going life and death with blown up light heavy Byrd? Holmes going life and death with ex light heavy Spinks? Twice? Fury going life and death with ex cruiserweight Cunningham? You are making a mountain out of an ant hill. I think nearly every HW champion has embarrassing moments struggling for several rounds with a smaller mediocre opponent. Ali won every round before and after his lapse in judgment and stopped Cooper in the round he predicted. This is almost as terrible as the Karl Mildenberger example. Lennox had a horrible lapse in judgement twice and got stopped both times but somehow that's better than getting off the floor to win?
Any professional boxer has the capability of putting another pro boxer on their ass if they are close to and over 200 lbs. It's been proven hundreds of times over a hundred years of pro boxing. That you are blinded by the size of the fighter and not the skills or physical ability speaks volumes about your actual knowledge of the sport.
Think of the reverse, could you name a HW fighter with better top shelf wins, against a variety of styles, that had the otherworldly intangibles he had, that nobody in history has had? I can't. The answer is yes, it's Ali, and frankly by the evidence, by a decent margin imo
Lewis was never dropped by anyone under 230. It might have been possible but it never happened in a pro fight
So that means it couldn't happen? Especially when considering the Fighters that ko'ed him were not noted for devastating punching power. Look, any professional boxer close to or over 200 lbs can ko another pro boxer who weighs more if they lands at the right time, and getting the right leverage on his punches. . It's been demonstrated hundreds of times. Regardless of how much a man weighs theirs only so much snap the brain can take.
Henry Coopers left hook, affectionately known as 'Enery's Ammer was a thing of beauty. Didnt travel far. Ali was clowning & almost paid for it. Just think if that had happened a few seconds earlier history may have been changed
i watched all of his bouts he was good,but not the greatest,i seen 5 fights that they gave him when he should have lost.
Uh, Foreman was 45, Vitali blew his shoulder, and Holmes wasn't that good. Besides, Spinks, Byrd and Moorer were all champions, as was Cunnigham for that matter, so you prove my point.
