It's impossible to rate Crawford as a fighter

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    With his circumstances and career it's impossible to rate Crawford. He became undisputed in arguably the weakest division in boxing at the time. Then he moved up to 147 and hasn't been able to get anybody of note in the ring.

    Who knows how good he is. He could be the second coming of Ray Leonard or the second coming of Zab Judah. Who the hell knows. We'll never know how good this fighter actually is or was because all the top guys won't fight him until he's old.

    It's a total freeze out.
     
  2. Pugilist Specialist

    Pugilist Specialist Active Member banned Full Member

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    He’s not that great. Basic skills and that Lithuanian guy had him in deep trouble
     
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    dougemerypm Active Member Full Member

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    IF you believe that then you could not spell boxing if I gave you all the letters. Crawford fought him the way he did to show he could. He proved he could beat someone with his style and their style
     
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    dougemerypm Active Member Full Member

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    That same "weak division" that had an undefeated Postol who recently gave Ramirez all he wanted. Any time you own all four belts in a weight division you have accomplished something. Where was Mikey Garcia? 5 lbs away and would not fight him but was willing to go up to 147 to fight Spence. Hell if it was that "weak" a division he should have come and capture all 4 belts himself? Crawford is good enough that he has beaten everyone that has got in the ring with him. That is all he can control. IF he wasn't good then PBC boxers would have been standing in line to get his belt. They aren't risking any of their belts to fight him
     
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    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The way Zab, Shane and Chop Chop had FlIVd? This is boxing, youre going to get hit.
     
  6. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    He’s definitely very good but it is kind of tough to figure out where to put him in the P4P rankings...I’ve seen him anywhere from 1st to 6th.
     
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    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    I know you're not talking about Postal. Once Crawdaddy adjusted for the height, he put a whoopin on that dude. LOL
     
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    No I’m talking about that Kaluskas guy or whatever,, he was beatin the **** out of Hoeford
     
  9. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    That part is not fair for you to say as a guy who cheered for GGG who also rose in a weak division attempting to become undisputed and still could not achieve it. Other than that all of Top Ranks fighters are in the same position Crawford is in. Who did Lomachencko fight of note to be given so much hype? When is Michael Conlan gonna step up? Jose Ramirez has 2 belts and no takers? Its looking light over there for everyone not just Crawford. PBC is filled with cowards except Porter. Even Pacquiao didn't want to fight Crawford or Porter.
     
  10. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    GGG and Ctawford had similar circumstances. Both fought in a weak division, but Crawford eventually moved up. Nobody wanted to fight GGG until he got older and declined.

    GGG got freezed out. Canelo actually vacated his title to wait for him to get old. The same thing is happening to Crawford.

    If a fighter gets freezed out I tell it like it is.
     
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    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    " It's impossible to rate Crawford as a fighter" I don't understand this. The guy has been placed in the Top 10 P4P list for years.
     
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    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    We don’t know how to rate his greatness due to his overall competition but it’s to no fault of his own.. Even though he did unify the 140 his only legit win was Postol again to no fault of his as Mikey Garcia was hiding out at 135 and waiting for him to move up.

    But at 147 there is guys there and he’s actively calling for the #1 guy who is clearly making “business” decisions the same “business” decisions that kept him from getting a shot at Porter, Thurman, and Garcia earlier. He should be more enthused about fighting guys like Porter or Thurman but he has a point when he said they didn’t wanna fight him until after they lost their titles.
     
  13. Starched Him

    Starched Him Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    looked more liked he tried to prove he could ko this guy and almost got kod
     
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    Starched Him Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you cant rate him because he ducked porter,
    thats the fight you can tell where he stand amongst the top 5.
    he literally has fought none of the top guys,
    rank him 6 infront of ugas but behind garcia brook would be 8th he should beat brook but again the 9th dropped him
     
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    whatever way you try and spin it, 140 was weak af