You are absolutely hopeless. I genuinely pity you. You have repeatedly said that he wasn’t exceptional. You have criticised him page after page, trying to bring him down. You don’t rate any of his wins. You are OBSESSED with the Tiberi fight. You ignore the good, but put the bad and the negative things under the microscope. You have rubbished the man and even mocked him. Yet after all of the above, you then have him as a top 25 MW. Ha! “NURSE!” Let me smarten you up a bit. ANY top 25 fighter of all time was EXCEPTIONAL. If you think that he was garbage and that he couldn’t beat a C class fighter in his prime, then how on earth can you rate him so highly? To call you stupid would be an insult to stupid people. You say that BJS was unfocused against Akavov, but that it’s an excuse to say that Toney was against Tiberi. You ignore wins over every other good fighter he beat, and just casually say that the outcome of those fights were just due to PEDS. You should be banned for being so hopeless.
You’ve been watching boxing and writing on it for over 40 years? GTFO! You are completely incapable of having an objective debate on this forum. There’s no boxing writer on this planet that behaves like you do, where they behave like an infant and make sister threads when things don’t go there way. We’ve already discussed why they were no rematches. One last time: Reggie didn’t pursue one. Nunn regrouped and MOVED up to SMW. Tiberi turned down $500,000 and WOULD NOT FIGHT TONEY AGAIN due to the decision.
I want you to read this reply. I'm not saying being a mod is easy, but it's up to you to police bad behavior. By tolerating it, you only going to get more of it. Every notice the person losing the debate and the battle of the facts is usually the first person to get angry and personal first? Also there are some posters who mis quote me to make their points, and as a mod blanket lies about another poster should not be tolerated. 1 ) Why? Blade's cards are crap. He is wrong and he's slinging mud. I'm just laughing at him because he doesn't know how to score a fight at all. If he acted fair, and you as a mod didn't allow personal stuff, the boxing would rule. I'm for that. Can you make it happen? I post factual stuff and if you haven't noticed don't fire off personal attacks first. I also find the poster in question a runner in debate uncle to answer questions. How come you are taking sides? Mod should be neutral. Is this some sort of payback where I think Joe Walcott won the first fight with Louis? 2 ) I have posted Toney cards here, Toney vs McCallum 1 for example. So when you say I haven't that BS or your unaware, but now you know. So you can say my bad later., or right after you read this. Do you want to my card on Toney vs McCallum 1? 3 ) I did see Toney vs Oquendo live. Who are you to say differently? Like you said, Toney was old for Ouendo, and like I said it wasn't a significant fight. So we are agreeing here. But Toney did lose it and I saw it. Saying otherwise to use your words is pathetic. 4 ) If the board says produce you card on every post, what type of board where we have? You comment on fights you have not seen all time time, and you know it. Most of us who know the sport do.
" I've also been watching and sometimes writing on boxing for over 40 years, which is probably double your age." To clarify, Yes, I have been watching boxing for 40 years. Not writing but I have authored some articles here long before you appeared and posting on message boards since the 1990's. Re-matches should be offered right after the fight. If you wait it out, they go away or other fights come up. Now you GTFO.
It wasn't for you dummy it was for someone else who thinks I do not post score cards here. What time it is in the UK? Get some rest, you need it,
Here is the problem. You are attacking this guy over and over again of his scoring of a fight. You've been attacking his scorecards ceaselessly. To me, even if he's wrong, he still has more right to talk about the subject and share his opinion than you. All these fights where you are so sure Toney lost - I suspect you haven't scored any of them. You've refused repeatedly to produce scorecards for many of them. Now this vague **** about "fight was a while ago" and "not that significant." You tell me you want me to "read this reply" and then actually ask me a question i just answered. Ffs. You have run in this thread more than anyone. Your reason is you're "dealing with fan boys". It's like you have this weird lack of self awareness. YOU are the runner here. If i'm to understand you correctly, you think that a moderator on a boxing forum should have no opinions about boxing? Mendoza, get ahold of yourself. Absolutely not. I haven't asked you for a Toney-McCallum card. I've asked you for a Toney-Tiberi card, you haven't produced one, a Toney-Oquendo card, you haven't produced one, and a Toney-Peter I card, and you haven't produced one. I am asking you for these cards not at random whereby I would apologise for asking you for them when you assure me you've scored a completely different fight, but for very specific reasons, specifically, the incredibly strong opinions you have about these fights without having apparently scored them. Which is bizarre behaviour. What's wrong with you Mendoza. READ what I write. At no time have a said "differently". This is fantasy, or you are confusing me with someone else. I've just asked you for a scorecard and we now know you dont' have one. At no time have i said you didn't see the fight. Of course. But all situations are not the same. You have spent - I'll say 10-15 posts badgering one poster over his scorecards. Over fights, you don't know whether or not you yourself think those fighters won. No, it is not enough "to have seen it" - anyone who knows boxing knows that actually scoring a fight blow by blow and watching it are two different things that can leave two different impressions. It's mad that you try to dispute this. Your behaviour is bizarre and weird and worthy of attention, as both a poster and a moderator.
He had no reason to offer Micheal Nunn a rematch, genius. You have not authored any articles. Your behaviour throughout this thread has been atrocious. You have acted like an infant. Knowledgeable fans who write about boxing DO NOT behave in your manner. When I first joined this great forum, I used to come onto the classic and read threads by John Garfield and Burt Beinstock. John Garfield (Joe Rein) was an absolute GENTLEMAN. He was a writer. A real one. An author and a fan who could converse with anyone in an objective manner. You are like a small child who cries when he doesn’t get his own way.
You have posted a card that NOBODY is interested in, yet you have point blank REFUSED to post a card that he’s been asking for for WEEKS.
Remember this guy claimed Sturm vs Geale was fought at 168 so he could pretend all of Golovkins defenses were of the Super WBA title.
There's no need to play "remember when". There's more than enough material in this thread without going over stuff that happened years or months ago.
