Whos on furys ? 39 year old Klitschko 1 trick pony wilder Dereck chisora. Wait a minute didnt chisora get knocked out by whyte ? The same whyte that Aj beat ?
Wilder in the US and Wlad in Germany are better wins than ANY Joshua win. Stop it AJ fangirl. Go and suck his HGH tits on Instagram.
Lol but who has wilder beaten ? His resume is trash for a top 3 The wlad win was better than Ajs but thats it. Nothing else. Fury even avoided whyte
Look dude.....i try to answer in a cordial way... boxing is about skills...in the ring...not about resumes. Who cares about the Wilder, Joshua and Fury resume? Nobody man. Fury is undefeated. He came to Germany and beat Wlads ass. He went to the US and beat Wilders ass. It wasn't even competitive. He just walked through the guy who was supposed to be the biggest puncher in history of the HWD, pummeled him and beat him up until his corner saw enough and pulled him out. You can bring resumes into play if a division is close on top. The Heavyweight division isn't close. Fury is the crystal clear #1 in the division and i give a **** about belts, resumes, lineal titles and other ****. If you really think Joshua beats Fury in a 12 round boxing fight, it's fine. Everyone has the right to hold an opinion. I won't try to convince you that Fury wrecks him. I just gave my opinion. So why are you trying to convince me that Joshua is so much better? It's a weak argument anyway to bring up a resume while i was talking about an actual boxing fight between the two. You're acting like a boxing fight is decided on a table where both guys comparing their resumes lmfao. Just stop it. We're going nowhere. You like AJ, i think AJ gets wrecked. Fine.
Its fine if you think joshua looses but to say its fury's easiest fight is just stupid. It'll be easier that schwartz and wilder ? Nah i dont buy that crap. As great as fury is, he dismantled a technically limited fighter and didnt engage with wlad like joshua did. Joshua is a better counter puncher than wlad and wilder, he throws combinations much better than wlad or wilder, he's got a powerful uppercut, a good left hook. He's better on the front foot than anybody fury's ever faced except arguably chsiora. Do you honestly think Joshua's going to stay at bay and let fury get comfortable behind and jab like wladimir and wilder did ? No he's going to move foward, attempt to pin fury on the ropes and attack the body. He knows trying to swap jabs with fury is useless as he's clearly inferior on the outside. Fury is the significant favorite but Aj isn't some stiff robotic weightlifter with no ring IQ. He might possibly be furys hardest fight
He'd have his moments with both. They'd need the knockout though- I can't see either of them getting the decision in the UK on a Hearn promotion.
AJ is a fighter on the decline, mentally scarred from Ruiz Jr and will never get over it. Fury is a fighter on the up with two big legacy defining wins. Fury is levels above as a boxer, and would comfortably and clearly beat AJ. Whether that be by UD or a clean KO.
Amazing how opinions have changed post Ruiz and Wilder fights. Since this always comes up, I'll streamline the resume talk in this fashion, the three top fights for each. AJ Resume: Wlad (40+ in the UK), Povetkin (~40 in the UK), Pulev(39 in the UK). All excellent fighters but all absolutely out of their prime, fighting away. AJ's best wins are old men. Wlad literally retired, Povetkin was talking about it, Pulev may well. On paper it may look great, but they were all way past their best, regardless of Povetkin still carrying on and drawing/winning fights he almost lost. Fury Resume: Wlad (39, undefeated for 10 years, in Germany), Wilder x2 (undefeated, in Murica). Far more dangerous fights, and on hostile ground. Fury was underdog in all of them, heavy underdog in the first two. Fury's top three wins are better, that's the reality. Fury is favourite in the AJ matchup now because people have realised he is better. AJ always has a chance and it wouldn't shock me to see him catch anyone and be able to finish them. But until then it's clear AJ is not beating undefeated Wlad in Germany and likely not Wilder x2 in Murica and it's impossible Fury gets TKO'd by Ruiz > just extra LOL at that concept! Fury's resume is better.
Resume comparison easily favours AJ imo Wlad Povetkin Whyte Pulev Ruiz Parker Molina Takam Brezeale Martin Vs Wlad Wilder Chisora Hamer Cunningham Johnson I mean the top 3 of Furys are better, imo. Wlad, Wilder and Chisora is better than Wlad, Povetkin and Whyte, but the depth clearly favours AJ. However the style of fight means AJ will be put on the back foot straight away by Fury. Fury is the bigger and quicker man so how is AJ going to beat him on the back foot, he won't, he will get beat down and knocked out. AJ will have to go to war to beat Fury and based on the Ruiz loss I'm not sure it's a war he can win.
AJ couldn`t take the shots that Wilder could and he didn`t look as quick as Fury last night, Pulev is 39.
It was obvious i was talking about "the easiest top fight"....i'm saying Joshua is the easiest matchup for Fury if we talk about the big boys. There are obviously BUMS out there who are a much easiert o beat than Joshua. Not too hard to understand dude. Of course Wilder is technically limited. Nevertheless he hits like a truck and won fights against superior skilled fighters like Ortiz where he was also outboxed by a very good jab (spare me "Ortiz is old and shot and overrated" bull****). All the things you're pointing out might be true but you're making one big mistake: Joshua won't move forward or pin Fury at the ropes. Fury is 6'9'' and weighs about 270 pounds. He has a solid reach/size/strength advantage over 240 pound Joshua. Fury won't get pinned at the ropes. He's clinching immediately. There is no other boxer in the HWD who has the same fight iq like Fury. Once it could get spicy he's just clinching up and as i pointed out before Joshua is totally clueless in the clinch and in the pocket. Look at the fight yesterday. Pulev was winning rounds and he did better in the clinch than Joshua. I know he was uppercut'd to hell but as i said in another topic this isn't the "inside game" I'm talking about. I'm talking about reactions, mechanics, behaviour once you're in the clinch or head to head. And Fury will absolutely hammer Joshua there. If you can't see that ,it's okay, but if you have at least some boxing knowledge you would see it too. The way Pulev was leaning on Joshua last night and had success with it (AJ did nothing in the clinch) is just alarming regarding a fight against Fury. Fury is no Pulev or Povetkin who just covers up and stays in front of you. Fury is moving constantly. It's almost impossible to pin him at the ropes. Either Fury moves away or he clinches up and he always has success finding the clinch. If you really think Joshua will move forward and pressure Fury and Fury just covers up and is pinned at the ropes, you're either really, really naive or just stupid (or you don't know **** about boxing). Maybe all three things together. There is no way on earth Joshua comes out and pressures, walks forward and pins Fury at the ropes. No way. Fury has this. He'll completly outclass Joshua and you can quote me after the fight happened (if it happens, Joshua is great in ducking). If Joshua wins this, i have to take it and i'm glad to take it. Personally, i think Fury wins 80-85% of the time. Joshua has a punchers chance for sure, as he clearly hits very hard, no doubt, dropping Andy Ruiz Jr. is a sign of massive power. He can knock Fury out. But i'm not seeing it. Fury 2.0 and yeah Fury was Fury 2.0 in the Wilder fight, i give a **** about how bad Wilder actually is, Fury 2.0 isn't beatable by current top HWs. I don't see a guy who can put it all together and more important i don't see a guy who has the neccesary skillset + size + length + strength to do it.
As usual on this forum people find it almost impossible to communicate without calling one fighter a bum or a hype job etc. I think Fury will win but I don't think he will bully him around like he did with Wilder. Fight will be more like Fury vs Klitschko than Fury vs Wilder.
You shouldn't be labelling either fighter a bum or a hype job. These are the two top HW fighters in the world.
2/3 years ago I had it a 80-20 fight in Fury favour. I reckon it is 60-40 now, personally. Fury to come through some tough moments but ultimately outbox him over the course of the fight.
