Current Top 10 P4P

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    1. Canelo
    2. Crawford
    3. Usyk
    4. Teofimo
    5. Estrada
    6. Spence
    7. Inoue
    8. Lomachenko
    9. Berchelt
    10. Taylor
     
  2. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone Full Member

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    1. Da Stoneman
     
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  3. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well...one reason is he had no impressive win after getting beaten by Canelo, but this is just IMO.
     
  4. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    Having a draw and a loss that should have been two wins, over a P4P talent like Canelo Alvarez, with one of the best resumes in the sport, should count for something shouldn't it? Especially when you add in his list of decent to solid wins at MW, which are more impressive than anything Crawford has ever accomplished. Pac would rate higher, but he has legit lost several times, and Teofimo has one solid win, and that win was debatable. A draw could be argued, regardless... Fury didn't make most people's top 10's when he beat Wlad, Ruiz didn't when he beat AJ, and Sor Rungvisai didn't when he beat Chocolatito. So that one's hard to call.
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    I love TTT, one of his first cheerleaders in the General, but thus far, he doesn't have a single win that's the caliber of Wlad and Wilder.
     
  6. Chitown

    Chitown Member Full Member

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    Canelo
    Inoue
    Estrada
    Usyk
    Crawford
    Spence
    Teo
    Loma
    Berchelt
    Beterbiev

    honorable mention Taylor, Fury, GGG, Manny, SSR, Roman
     
  7. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    1.Inoue
    2.Lomachenko
    3.Crawford
    4.Alvarez
    5.Usyk
    6.Beterbiev
    7.Estrada
    8.Bivol
    9.Spence
    10.Davis
    11.Ioka
    12.Mikey Garcia
    13.Taylor
    14.Warrington
    15.Joshua
    16.GGG
    17.Gonzalez
    18.Pacquiao
    19.Rigondeaux
    20.Lara
    21.Wangek
    22.Lopez
    23.Berchelt
    24.Briedis
    25.Valdez
     
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  8. RB1702

    RB1702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder is a lesser fighter than Prograis but of course he’s more mainstream because he’s a heavyweight with a lot of KO power. Doesn’t make him a better fighter though.
     
  9. h8me

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    Why?
     
  10. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    Because I rate wins over Danny Garcia, Shawn Porter, Mikey Garcia, Lamont Peterson, prime Kell Brook, over the handful of corpses on Crawford's resume, and Jeff Horn and Viktor Postol.
     
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  11. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Everyone knows Canelo has ability. But why put him on any P4P list until he legit beats other prime champions without PEDs, judges or weight clauses. It's absurd.

    A bit of a recap:
    Cotto fight > Massive size advantage, Cotto old
    Khan fight > Massive size advantage, likely PEDs, Khan already chinned many times
    Liam Smith fight > Not elite, likely PEDs
    Chavez fight > Weight drained, post prime opponent
    Golovkin I fight > Lost, corrupt judging, likely PEDs
    ~Officially busted for PEDs
    Golovkin II > Close fight, could have lost with different judges
    Fielding fight > Weight claused opponent, not elite
    Jacobs fight > post prime
    Kovalev fight > Weight claused opponent recently almost TKO'd, post prime

    Seriously, basically every major opponent here is either OLD, DRAINED, ROBBED or some combo. Be honest about it.

    To put this all into perspective, if Canelo fought:
    Young Cotto, similar weight > Canelo quite possibly beaten
    Chavez that beat Lee > Canelo quite possibly beaten
    Younger Golovkin > Canelo loses twice and is possibly stopped
    Jacobs that fought Golovkin > Toss up
    Younger Kovalev > Canelo ends up like Pascal, during a funny walk into the corner, shelling up and being stopped.

    If Canelo stops or legit beats Smith with no controversy (hard to control his PED-ing still), it would at least be a prime elite opponent not drained or robbed.
     
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  12. h8me

    h8me Member Full Member

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    Well, Brook was after GGG beating and Spence was losing the fight
    And Crawford did unify 140
     
  13. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Crawford is the best fighter right now.
     
  14. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Happy to see somebody else with Ioka, he's a four division champion and unified in minimumweight, no reason he shouldn't be rated highly, even with an MD loss and an SD loss.
     
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  15. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    Well, unfortunately P4P lists are not built around skill level. So that's irrelevant to this conversation. But we all know what this is all about, just another AJ fan trying to tear down Tyson Fury. Jesus you fools are so transparent.:lol:
     
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