Has the man to beat Tyson Fury been born yet?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by xnico, Dec 17, 2020.



Does Tyson Fury retire undefeated?

  1. Yes

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    47.5%
  2. No

    31 vote(s)
    52.5%
  1. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And remember even Cunningham had him in serious trouble
     
  2. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    I voted yes, but I'm not sure. But, do you realize that the first person to live 1000 years has already been born?
     
  3. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    It’s not a bad era but not great either. I judge boxers and their division the same way. Who & How. In that order.

    1. WHO have you fought? Who have you beaten or lost to?
    2. HOW you won. Did you hug/hold/foul your way to a undeserved 115-113 on the cards, barely getting by? Or did you come in, look good, handle your business and leave someone throughly beaten. Did you take their soul 120-108 or get a clean K.O. ?
    The Who is first simply because anyone can look amazing fighting part time cab drivers and laid off construction workers.

    The best should fight the best. This is currently where the heavyweight division is weak. Twitter spats between boxers who want to be Instagram bodybuilders. Boxers more concerned with their brand and social media than their legacy. Deranged fools filing lawsuits, spouting nonsense about being drugged or costume weights. Rematch clauses in non title fights. Too busy playing king of the paycheck to be king of the mountain.


    How you win and how you lose. This category is where Fury has impressed people. He’s slick, twitchy and has amazing reflexes and agility for a big man. Feints, head movement and great leverage under Kronk training.

    However Fury lacks proper who. What he does in the ring is impressive, It’s just not as impressive against Tom Schwarz or Otto Wallin as it would be against WHYTE, POVETKIN, AJ, ORTIZ, RUIZ JR, PARKER etc etc.
     
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  4. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    The guys you refer to in the 80s were all quality talented fighters.
     
  5. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    For me it was all Pinklon Thomas.

    Pinklon Thomas has an incredibly versatile jab. He could flick it out as a deterrent or range finder. It could be used to hurt or move his opponent into position. On top of that he had a great chin. The man took twelve to fifteen power shots from a prime Mike Tyson before going down...and still tried to get up.

    Heroin from age 12 did its damage to his development physically, biologically. Cocaine interrupted his development in boxing. Shame.
     
  6. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Quality fighters with short reigns unfortunately. A real shame as some could've been really great champs.
     
  7. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    it is about size and awkward style. A guy who is big and has a longer jab than Tyson can offset that, but who is that. He has to be quick also.
     
  8. BCS8

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    What happened to the Klitschko rematch?
     
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  9. KingKO

    KingKO El Terrible Full Member

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    Has any man been born yet not from his mother? If so, him.
     
  10. BCS8

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    10 years at the top while making an entire division look like bums.
     
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  11. DosserTerminator

    DosserTerminator New Member Full Member

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    Tbf Tyson was very young then 24 25 most guys dont turn pro till 26 now. Plus Fury went in with the brain dead theory he could take massive shots and just walk him down it worked and I wouldn't say Cunningham really hurt him but it was immaturity on Fury's part to risk it. He wouldn't do now. I know Cunningham dropped him but you catch anybody clean like that theyre going over I dont care how tough your chin is that will rock you what Fury does have is tremendous recovery.
     
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  12. DosserTerminator

    DosserTerminator New Member Full Member

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    Didn't happen because Fury had a breakdown, but that dont take nothing away from the fact Fury outclassed him. TBH I think the way people try and downplay his achievements is sad only in todays times can a man come back from the real lows and conquer the division again and still be ridiculed. I'm a recovering drug addict myself been clean a year so I know what its like to not even be able to motivate yourself to get out of bed let alone return to the ring and win the heavyweight championship again.
     
  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Joyce is far more proven than the other three, don`t even know if those 3 could beat Dubois.
     
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  14. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    True but also perhaps a reflection of how competitive the era was. 2 of my favourites from that era were Terrible Tim Witherspoon and Pinklon Thomas with that jab.
     
  15. LD Boxer-Puncher

    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That can (and should) be looked on in the absolute reverse way to how you've interpreted it. He should have been knocked out cold from that punch, he got up and battered the guy who delivered it for the rest of the fight instead. Then he said next time out, I'll walk down and KO the biggest puncher of all time. You laughed at him. Then he did it.
    This all after dethroning the decade long reigning champ and then ballooning in weight to 27 stone and being on the verge of suicide. If there's a guy who has a greater air of invincibility around him then I'd like to meet him