dont be so sure Old Man Beterbiev walks through Canelo

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  1. El Gallo Negro

    El Gallo Negro Active Member banned Full Member

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    I'm not saying he turtles up like Callum Smith, but this is a tough fight for the Bievster...quite possibly his toughest out there with Stevenson retired.
     
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  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I said the same thing. Canelo is a bad sob and with his speed and skills could box circles around Beterbiev who would be beat to the punch countered and swing at alot of air all night. I could very easily see canelo outboxing him to a ud win.
     
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  3. LiL Boosie

    LiL Boosie Member banned Full Member

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    Beterviev is 35 and has 1 solid win
     
  4. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bivol vs Beterbiev winner should be the best in the world at 175, Canelo included. I think Canelo should clear 168 and fight whoever clears 175.
     
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  5. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    I mean, I can envision it. Beterbiev has looked very crude at times, often having to rely on his freakish power to bail him out. Canelo has taught us all that he's hard to be hit cleanly and often rolls with the punches while punishing you with counters.

    But here's where the old saying weight classes exist for a reason. Beterbiev is legitimately a big LHW and one of the hardest punchers in the divisions history. I don't know if Canelo can withstand Beterbiev's brutal caveman style over the course of 12 rounds.
     
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Gvozdyk would've beaten the **** out of Clenelo and stopped him, let alone Beterbiev who contrary to what the casuals will try and believe can actual box and is a lot more skillful than their untrained eyes can pick up.

    Unlike the drunk still concussed shell of Kovalev whose power and punch resistance had diminished drastically and barely threw a hard shot all night, Beterbiev lives a clean life, trains like a spartan and doesn't only hit ridiculously hard for a LHW, in complete contrast to Six Round Tank Sergey Shotalev, isn't 4-3 in his last 7 fights, 2 of those loses coming via way of stoppage (and Kov came within a whisker of being 3-4 after nearly getting stopped by a rank novice just nine weeks earlier who'd never fought anyone remotely close to world class before), and Beterbiev has an insane engine and can maintain a high pace throwing bombs from round 1 to 12 with very little respite and if you think Clenelo will be able to just march forward and walk him down like he did to Smith and shot Kovalev you're living in a dream world. When Beterbiev cracks Clenelo on that massive ginger dome of his even his half power shots will rock him down to his soul.

    On Beterbiev's power and some quotes from his team.

    'He's very strong, very tough. Hits very hard with a lot of power. I think he's definitely going to be one to watch in the division. I don't think there's many who could last with him.''

    What is it about Beterbiev that makes him so good?

    ''It's his power. I mean sometimes you box with him or out box him but sooner or later he's going to catch you with one of those big shots and he's just got so much power for a light-heavyweight.''

    --Bob Ajisafe

    'Beterbiev has sparred recently with Bob Ajisafe and Blake Caparello, who believes Campillo (25-6-1, 12 KO) is in for a brief outing. "I really think it will be a short night for Campillo," Caparello said. "This guy has some incredible brute force. He could even chase and hunt down a strong Sergey Kovalev in the ring'

    Oleksandr Usyk

    Q: Oleksandr, you won most everything as an amateur, including the gold at the 2012 Olympics. Who would you say gave you your hardest fight as an amateur?

    Oleksandr Usyk: “Well, all those fights, they all took place within the last couple of years or so, so it’s hard to say. Maybe, if I was pushed to say, it was Artur Beterbiev of Russia who gave me my roughest fight. He is very aggressive and he does hit very hard.”

    Gabriel Campillo

    'Artur Beterbiev who is very strong, for sure he was the hardest puncher that I fought. ''

    Someone posted this on another forum

    ''I've heard scary stuff about this guy from behind gym doors, including a high HIGH praise and a glowing endorsement from Ovill Mckenzie who has been in his camps, said he will win world title within 10 fights without question''

    Pascal on Beterbiev

    Pascal is convinced that despite Beterbiev's short experience as a pro, he will be ready for Tavoris Cloud.

    Pascal: ''Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if he knocks Cloud out.''

    Artur Beterbiev is renowned for his power, as Pascal confirms.

    Pascal: ''Artur is a brute, I remember the first time we sparred, he hit me so hard my neck hurt for a week. He's a very big puncher, he's very strong physically but he's also very smart.''

    I remember reading an interview with Marc Ramsay where he said that they have problems finding sparring partners for him because he hits so goddamn hard. He said no one wants to spar him. The stuff he does in the gym, sparring, training etc. has made a big impression on those around him and going by stuff I read I think it's not uncommon for him to knock his sparring partners out or give them a real hiding.

    'I posed this question to Russ Anber, a trainer who helps Marc Ramsay with Beterbiev, and has worked in the corners of Sergio Martinez, Roy Jones Jr., and Jean Pascal. He drew on his 36 years in the boxing biz, and was straightforward with his appraisal of the Russian, a two-time Olympian.

    "Beterbiev is almost too good to be true," Anber told me of the fighter, who resides with his wife and kids in Montreal. "Technically, he's a complete student of the game, old school. He's university educated, understands biomechanics. His style is strength, imposition, but he's complete. He's as strong as a heavyweight, spars heavyweights here, like Oscar Rivas. He's the kind of guy, he comes into the gym, he doesn't turn the music on, he turns it off. He goes to the body, his infighting is good. And he's beaten Sergey Kovalev in the amateurs twice!"

    "This is the most complete boxer I've seen up close," Anber continued. "It's an effin privilege to be with him. His mental approach is that of a spartan. And I mean, he's the sort of guy you'd want your daughter to bring home. It's almost too good to be true."

    Yvon Michel:

    'How impressed are you with the rapid progress of Artur Beterbiev?

    Look, he is really impressive in every aspect of what you dream of for a fighter. He has a personality; he is an intelligent person, he's a family man. He has strength, power, speed, technique and dedication. The only thing that is missing is experience and we're working on it. It's a huge step (facing Cloud), we understand that, but we've seen him spar, I've had reports from his strength and conditioning coach, his trainer Marc Ramsey, who trains a lot of high performance fighter. Everything is telling me that we have an exceptional fighter on our hands

    Beterbiev's strength and condition coach (Andre Kulesza):

    'One last word that Andre Kulesza. This guy was coach with the greatest athletes in the world. Including Lucian Bute, a beast of training.

    "Phfff, it does not compare. That's what I've seen stronger in my life. It is measured scientifically. The recovery time, strength, relaxation. Artur Beterbiev is in a class by itself. "

    Marc Ramsay said his stamina is really good too.

    ''No matter if the fight is short or long, Artur will fight like hell in every round, promised Marc Ramsay, Beterbiev's trainer. I know that a lot of boxing fans in Canada are worried to see Beterbiev, who has only five pro bouts, face one of the biggest name on the international scene. But not me. I am working every day in the gym with Artur. I know how much this fighter is great and mature. Andre Kulesha, our physical education's specialist, told me he never worked with a fighter stronger and resistant like Artur. Cloud has no idea how much Berterbiev is good, strong physically and resistant. Trust me, Artur has the stamina to attack from the first to the 12 rounds if it's necessary.''

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    But of course Clenelo could've taken this fight after he beat ''the best light-heavyweight in the world'' Kovalev just like he could've unified against Bivol because both of them would've jumped at the chance and for less money than Clenelo's other opponents were asking for. But instead, just as I told you all he would, he dropped that belt like it was molten lead and scurried back down to safer waters at 168. Granted, Beterbiev is injury ravaged and has past that 35 years of age (36 next month) threshold hunting ground Clenelo thrives on so if he does suddenly decide he wants to venture back up to 175 again and take the Beterbiev challenge we'll know exactly why.
     
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  7. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Hahhaa...

    That much hate huh? Lmao
     
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  8. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Here we go again with the "old man" BS and all the other prearranged excuses.
    If Canelo fights him he should get full credit and if he actually beats him, even more so.
    BTW I'll say it on record. I think Beterbiev rips Canelo's head clean off his shoulders and throws it into the crowd like it's 55 BC in the Roman Colosseum.
    Weight classes exist for a reason and Beterbiev is ridiculously strong for LHW.
     
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  9. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Smith was able to land on Canelo in spots when he finally decided to exchange late in the fight. Beterbiev is years ahead of Smith in skills and ring IQ.
     
  10. drenlou

    drenlou Tres Delinquentes Full Member

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    Too long, didnt read! Lol
     
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  11. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    One thing is for sure, Canelo inspires his fans and his haters.
     
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  12. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    A very nice and detailed, well thought out analysis.

    Unfortunately we can’t give you any Internet forum points because you didn’t use RANDOM CAPITALS and punctuation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*