How would Riddick Bowe have fared if he had fought 20 years earlier?

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Bowe was always going to be a candle that burned brightly but briefly.

    I can't see him dominating any era.
     
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  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    It would have been a good fight one way or the other.
     
  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Ali.
     
  4. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spot on.
    Basically when you miss fighting all of Tyson, Lewis, Mercer, McCall, Moorer, Bruno, Morrison, Foreman, Ruddock etc even though all were contemporaries then something is amiss.

    Even old comeback Foreman whose second career is considered to be highly stage managed managed to meet two of the aforementioned punchers beating one.

    Bowe was protected for a reason but still ended up punchy which adds weight to your theory about him being damaged after leaving the amateurs.
     
  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Bruno only ever fought top fighters in world title fights, he never fought a top contender, after Bowe won world titles by beating Holy he defended against two fighters that weren`t ranked in the toop ten but during Bowe`s first reign as a champ
    Bruno kept winning fights, helping him to retain his spot as one of the world's leading heavyweights. He defeated contender Carl Williams, and then journeymen such as Jose Ribalta, Pierre Coetzer, and Dutchman Jan Emmen. Bruno went on to fight Lewis in 1993, do you think Bruno would have taken a world title shot v Bowe instead of taken a world title shot at Lewis during this period?
     
  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    In March 1995, Bowe won the WBO version of the world heavyweight championship by knocking down England's Herbie Hide six times en route to scoring a sixth-round knockout.

    In June 1995, after a heated build up, Bowe defended the WBO heavyweight title against his archrival in the amateurs, Jorge Luis González, At the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. The prefight hype contained bizarre trash talk, which included Gonzalez declaring a desire to eat Bowe's heart and likening himself to a lion while making Bowe out to be a hyena. Bowe won by sixth-round knockout over Gonzalez. He vacated the WBO championship soon after. After the Gonzales fight, Bowe fought a rubber match with Evander Holyfield, their third and final meeting. Holyfield knocked Bowe down during the fight, but Bowe maintained his composure, and persevered to score an eighth round stoppage victory. Do you feel Bowe should have met Bruno during this period instead of the above three figters? Bruno fougt Mike Evans during this period why would he have risked fighting Bowe during that period and risk his shot at the WBC title against McCall?
     
  7. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Bowe was a food addict. Rock knew his window was gonna be short.

    He has the size and tools to give Frazier problems. His inside game was unique.
    Enough power to get Joe's respect. Frazier would score punches on Bowe. It would be a battle of attrition. Both in peak condition its a distance fight. With a gun to my head Frazier outguts Riddick. Both take damage.
     
  8. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It depends which Riddick Bowe shows up, even though Muhammad Ali was years away from his 25 year old 1967 form, he would out box Bowe. Against Smoking Joe Frazier in 1972, Joe was relegated to fighting Terry Daniels and Ron Stander, this following that brutal March 8 1971 title defense against Muhammad Ali in The Fight Of The Century.. Joe was spent by then, Bowe stops Frazier in round 12 after an exhausting fight for Joe. I think that he would have beaten Oscar Bonavena, Mac Foster, and Floyd Patterson. He would have had his hands full against George Foreman, who was unbeaten, and Jerry Quarry. A good fight would have been against Joe Bugner, but Riddick wins on points.
     
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  9. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thanks for the cut and paste but I remember what occurred.
    We’re talking about Bowe and not Bruno here but no Bruno was always more likely to stay at home for a higher profile, higher paying grudge match with Lewis.

    But it’s a moot point. Bruno definitely deserved a shot ahead of Jesse Ferguson or Michael Dokes but Frank was big and punched hard. Bowe didn’t fight guys like that as his record shows. His best wins were smallish heavyweights Holyfield, Seldon and Cooper. One of those was a journeyman and the other only slightly better. Gonzalez was trash and everyone knew that going into the fight so Bowe doesn’t get too many props for beating him either.

    Bowe was talented but in a talent rich era like the 90’s his resume is extremely thin besides Holyfield.
     
  10. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    I could see Bowe potentially knocking out Frazier late but that's about it
     
  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Holyfield would have beaten Bruno and Frank went on to fight Ferguson after Jesse was destroyed by Bowe, both of them were guided the same way by their teams.
     
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  12. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I won’t disagree with that Mark.
     
  13. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    As well as the last time this thread was made.
     
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  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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  15. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    70s heavyweights get overrated a bit because people always go off the name than their actual performance through the decade. Bowe at his absolute peak would lose to the best versions of 70s Ali and Holmes, 50/50 for Frazier and Foreman imo. Hes probably not losing to Norton, Lyle, Shavers etc so let's replace Frazier for Holyfield as the only elite guy he fights and he could probably have a similar career.
     
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