Which heavyweight boxers replicate could Foreman's feat of winning a championship after 40?

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  1. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its possible, but too difficult to say until the fighter reaches that age and we can gauge what they have left. Having a vulnerable champion is also a big plus.

    Besides Foreman, how many could of possibly of done it? Holmes is a good call as he was rather competiive even in his advanced age. Vitali probably if he could make it out of a training camp at 45 without injury. I think if he had lived long enough and kept in shape Liston may have been able to stay competitive. I think Lewis may have been able to have a successful comeback at 45 if he stayed in shape but its so hard to tell. Holyfield on a good night could of as well (almost did vs valuev, how old was he)?
     
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  2. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    And AJ for Pov
     
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  3. JDub

    JDub Active Member Full Member

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    If Povetkin can get another shot at a title after Joshua vs Fury, I'd give him an outside shot of beating Joshua, reckon Fury would deal with him though.
     
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  4. Blandman

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    Foreman was never super fast and didn’t rely heavily on reflexes, he was strong as a bull, had a telephone pole jab and thudding bone crushing power in both hands and from almost any angle. Reflexes and speed go first with age, strength and power last. Ali was washed up early by today’s standards not just from the wars but because his reflexes slowed and he got hit a whole lot more.

    Vitali is somewhat of an enigma in that he had uncanny reflexes at a late age, although speed was never his game. Fury has uncanny reflexes and doesn’t possess lightning speed either so I don’t know, will he be like Ali or Vitali when age age takes its toll.

    Who’s the next Foreman, there’s only one. But who breaks his record remains to be seen. My guess is it’s someone with a lot of power, not named Wilder.

    Hopefully it’s not HGH or some other ped that influences that feet...10 years away from the game and coming back at his late age, it was a monster feet, weather anyone breaks the age record or not.
     
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  5. reckless

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    Wlad looked slow and shot in his last fight against Joshua. He would have only become worse at 45.
     
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  6. IntentionalButt

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    Uh-oh, the robot's syntax's glitching.
     
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  7. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No one will come close to this feat. Old Foreman while slow, had a phenomenal jab that was as heavy as a cross (so he could jab with almost all of his younger contemporaries), one of the two or three heaviest right hands in history, he picked off and parried shots great to the point where you couldn't really land in combination on him, what landed he could take because his chin was quality, you couldn't physically push him around or backwards, and he conserved energy well. There are no heavyweights that we've seen at his age that had all of these qualities in one package, he was simply a freak of nature, even at the advanced age. Hell, most of the younger guys don't possess all of these qualities in their prime. Even with all of this, Foreman "barely" accomplished the feat himself, I just don't see anyone else doing it at HW
     
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  8. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    320 pounds maybe lol
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Even this post-Covid arthritic slug slow geriatric shot shell of Povetkin would probably ice him out cold.
     
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  10. Jamal Perkins

    Jamal Perkins Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The HW landscape indeed the entire boxing landscape these days is so barren...there are 4-5 stars and a few closeted in names like whyte and no one knows who else is fighting......soon the way the greedy promoters and tv companies and fighters only figting once a year and selling us shite as caviar have killed this sport.....the entire boxing world will be 3 HW's and whyte and Usyk plus canelo , GGG, Garcia, 2 welters and thats it........ the recent Ring magazine had a story about 2 bums called charlo who no one knows or knows the difference between them....and spoke of the 31 year olds "potential"............this "sport" will soon be dead......so predicting another HW to win a world title in his 40s is not that hard.......one of the big 3 if they want to keep fighting in their 40s and since they only fight once every 2 years and earn millions for it......and theres no one up and coming and its a closed cartel and racket of 5-6 guys.........who cares...... I mean look at this forum theres only really 10 fighters discussed.....none of us know anyone else........there are no more felt forum club shows, no heavyweight explosion..no don king heavyweights ....no kinshasha or Kuala Lumpur..hell not even a HW prizefighter.

    Imagine if we had the internet and forums in the late 1980s....there'd be threads about 30 different HW boxers of the time

    Going back to the TS question....Foremans was an incredible story and 2nd career....though the east coast boxing writers cabal did their best to ppiss on it and give it as minimal coverage as possible until Foreman beat Cooney 3 years in.....

    Holyfield shoulda been given the verdict over valuev in 2008 at 46 yrs old.........and as others said Wlad shouldve finished AJ if he wasnt so timid
     
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  11. bbjc

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    Someone might be capable. But no one will ever do it in the shape foremann was in with a ten year lay off. Unbelievable story really.

    Goes to show how good foremans era really was. Ten year break...way way out of shape and still comes back to win a world title at 46. Wouldnt like to have fought him in his prime...if he was achieving that at 46...way overweight with a ten year lay off.
     
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  12. Blandman

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    Foreman 2019 documentary. Sorry, posted link but wasn’t sure if against the rules.

    Worth watching if you haven’t seen it.
     
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  13. catchwtboxing

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    Not so sure about that. Joshua's confidence is an at all time-low, and Povetkin's at an all-time high. And Povetkin would be bound to make some adjustments. Joshua would be the favorite, but Sascha might have one more uppercut in him.
     
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  14. Dubblechin

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    Povetkin, I believe, is still hospitalized after he was admitted for a second time because he can't breathe with Covid. I highly doubt Povetkin will ever fight again.

    And to replicate what Foreman did, Povetkin would have to win the heavyweight title two months before his 46th birthday, which would be July 2025. I'd give that a zero chance of happening.

    What Foreman did was huge. It's an accomplishment that is often ridiculously underrated. Foreman didn't win a paper belt, he beat the lineal champ by KO.
     
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  15. JDub

    JDub Active Member Full Member

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    Well if the fight were to happen after Joshua vs Fury and Povetkin won, he would of beaten the lineal champ, whilst being over 40. Not bad going if it were to happen (Probably won't but circumstances could well play out that he has a shot at it).
     
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