One of my top British fighters. Where do you rate Honeyghan, at his best from beating Curry? Overrated as some say to beating a drawn curry, or an excellent welter who burned brightly but briefly?
I feel he was simply a great athlete with bad fundamentals, Curry couldn`t cope with his speed but his corner were awful during the Starling fight, 'are you tired Lloyd?' when he just kept punching arms round after round, I don`t know what the strategy was for that fight, he simply didn`t know how to feint Starling out of his high guard.
I've long been a detractor of his. Just don't see what all the fuss is about. Caught Curry at the right time, and chose two cadavers to KO early in Bumphus (who could barely stand at that point) and Hatcher, who had no business being at 147 anyway. Credit due, he did stop them both early as he should have but let's be honest, most decent champions would have. Then he goes life and death with Blocker, showing poor fundamentals, leaping in with singular power punches and showing no body punching or setting anything up, he looked awful. Then he loses to Jorge Vaca of all people. Just don't see it.
He only showed his whole arsenal for the one fight, but he was very good in that fight and I don’t know why people don’t rate him at all
Excellent fighter, because even if Curry wasn't 100%, a scrub wouldn't have been able to do what Honeyghan did that night. I'm also not convinced it was all Curry. It would be foolish to dismiss the possibility that Honeyghan just had the wrong style for Curry, because that's a very real possibility. Honeyghan is overrated though, because he's often put in matchups with guys like Leonard, Duran, Hearns, Trinidad, ect. But maybe that reflects the fact that Don Curry was once guilty of being overrated by many, myself included, admittedly.
History has not been kind on Lloyd. I would argue some look at his career best performances wrongly. The Curry/Bumphus fights were arguably the end of his peak. Honeyghan's prime began, with 35 years hindsight, with his best win; his destruction in Italy of Gianfranco Rosi. So his peak was for a longer period, and although he did not fight the very best before Curry, he did convincingly beat some very good fighters. Thus his blast outs of Bumphus and Hatcher, plus the headache that was the Blocker fight were fought on the last fumes of his prime.
Nor do I , nether have ? your summary was word perfect, on top of that he was a arrogant pig of a man, went along to see him prepare for Hatcher he was working out in a gym near Tottenham north London, he asked one of his goffers to enquire as to who I was, told them no one special just a boxing fan, they came back and said Lloyd don't want you watching so he told me, and I am telling you " **** Off " that from a world champion, also when he done the rounds of quiz and panel shows as champ, he never once said please or thank you !!
You have got to be kidding !!! Basilio was a ATG so was Mayweather, please tell me I was drawn out, and you were indeed joking...
I hated watching the Starling fight, being a Honeyghan fan I wanted him to whip his ass, lol. But fairs fair, Starling was the better man that day. By the time he faced Breland he was gone, done, shot. But the Lloyd that smashed Don Curry..?.. That Honeyghan beats Mark, no doubt imo.
Honeyghan was a very good fighter who, in my opinion, fought Curry at the right time. To me, he was a step below the best welters I've seen over 40+ years I've been following the sport.
Lower than Keith Thurman. Somewhere around Paul Williams. Higher than Andre Berto. He was fine. Good. Not great.
I don't know what your obsession with Keith Thurman is, but Keith was always garbage. Both Honeyghan and Williams would have beaten the crap outta Thurman. I don't think there's a huge gap between Thurman and Berto. I would rank Thurman as better, but not substantially. Keith Thurman's a highly mediocre fighter.
