I'm now convinced floyd was also on steroids or illegal substance

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  1. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    PEDs for boxers are Placebo confidence boosters at best, so if Linares is not on PEDs... it only means...that he was intelligent enough to know that there are no PEDs to prevent cuts
     
  2. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This excuse doesn’t cut it because Floyd was the one screaming about PEDs and testing, so naturally, if you’re passing tests, innocent until caught, of which Floyd was, caught. Unless you’re buying the excuse that he’s a MW squeezing down to WW and was that dehydrated he had to illegally have that much saline and IV.

    moreover, he held that fight back 5 years with a prime Pac over some bs testing from his high horse when he had Usada in his pocket.
     
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  3. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Hey guys, I am now convinced the sky is blue and water is wet.
     
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  4. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd is at least one of the top 10 naturally gifted boxers of his era, PEDs helped him as much as FUE pubic hair he stuck up his beard...The people who choose to sleep with Floyd will do so because of his status, not because of the 5'o clock shadow trend...Same as in boxing, Floyd won all his fights due to his annoying ability of avoiding punches, there is no PED for that
     
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  5. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    LOL

    Are you new to professional sports?

    Top level athlete using the finest "sports medicine" has to offer, administered by "sports doctors" and funded by "partners"...
     
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  6. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    He set an unhealthy trend Floyd did with his cherry picking
     
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  7. Malph

    Malph Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is a really good point. Floyd won most of his fights due to his skills. He was not the guy overpowering other fighters.

    I'd say maybe the PEDs helped lengthen his career and helped him compete in the higher weight classes. Maybe the PEDs helped him train harder in the gym and recover faster, but he was never the overpowering guy who's punching power seemed out of proportion to his frame.

    It was his boxing skills, honed through hours and years spent training.

    At this point, we should probably assume most high level boxers have used some sort of PED.
     
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  8. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd did some damage to boxing...his biggest victim was Margarito, but he also brought a lot of attention to boxing. Plenty of youngsters got into boxing because they idolized Floyd values/lifestyle. The era of Floyd was the peak of monetary-materialism, Floyd was a walking-talking mascot for the holy USD...No one could have done it better than Floyd.

    This generation is a bit different, the changes will cause collateral-damage to some people, but there will be advantages. The nature of money will change, Social-Status will play a bigger role...in the transitional generation...between Floyd era and the next era.
     
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  9. TFP

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    It'd be very naive to confidently declare any top level athlete to be have totally clean in every last respect at every last point of their career, e.g. in Floyd's case including every last thing he did to make weight & rehydrate and to deal with pain from his hand injuries.

    But something I can say for Floyd is that I never saw his physique or move up through the weight divisions as anything particularly unusual or suspicious. There are IMO no particular reasons to believe he was a heavy steroid or HGH etc user a la Evan Fields.

    His hairline isn't something that I've ever paid much attention to.
     
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  10. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    For performance, Caffeine is the most powerful PED, everything else is overpriced snake-oil. Being illegal, helps the hype.

    For bodybuilding T and everything that gets T = Anabolic gains

    Great for Bodybuilding, but horrible for boxing it has a negative impact on a boxer, boxers gain physical strength on the expense of:
    • Loss of reach-height, because anabolism moves boxers up weight classes
    • Drop in punching power, via loss of speed
    • Drop in Stamina
     
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  11. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Bruh, this been proven. Illegal IV fluids. The private contract with USADA. The refusal to use VADA.
     
  12. Mr Applebee

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    I don’t think there’s any real argument from anyone against the fact that Floyd was using peds. Besides from his most diehard fans maybe. But the argument here isn’t one that supports it lol
     
  13. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    A lot of misinformation in this post. You sound like somebody who hasn't used any sort of drugs. Nor would you need to, you just need to take the time to Google Scholar it, read some books like The Secret Race, stuff on anti-doping policy and governance or just use common sense. All drugs, whether they are used medicinally or for sport, have performance enhancing benefits. According to your post, EPO is "hype". Ludicrous.

    There are a plethora of drugs which are currently being utilised by the world's top performers, which have incredible performance enhancing effects. Even many Division 3, or county level weekend warriors are utilising much more than caffeine, to great effect.

    Regarding testosterone, you are only isolating its anabolic effects, which is only one of the many benefits to some athletes. Micro-dosing testosterone has enormous effect on muscle contraction, hence why many rake thin, sub 4% body fat cyclists have been utilising it for decades in the hardest endurance events in the sporting sphere. These guys are precisely looking to avoid all anabolic effects. They are looking for watts/kg, which is exactly contrary to your post = power output.
     
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  14. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Boxing is different because the cost of giving up height-reach (due to anabolic side-effects) exceeds any benefits in performance

    If other sports had governing bodies enforcing weight divisions, the sports will change. Boxing is unique in the way that really no PED at all can help. The governing bodies are helping with this by adding more weight restrictions, which penalize any anabolic gains (side effect of most popular PEDs)

    PEDs are useful in most sports, not boxing mainly because of weight-divisions
     
  15. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    Plus he was old as **** when he signed that SHO deal.
     
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