Pacquiao the clout chaser

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Glass City Cobra, Jan 25, 2021.



  1. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I read your post, I simply don't care if he vacates or not, neither Crawford nor Spence is becoming undisputed anytime soon judging on their eagerness to fight each other. Plus he beat Thurman for the title, no easy feat at 40 and Covid interrupted Pac fighting Crawford so maybe cut him some slack?
     
  2. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Meanwhile, Crawford and Spence continue to find excuses to not fight each other, Tank Davis refuses to fight any legit opponent at his own weight and many top names in boxing cherry pick opponents even when top guys are available. Manny is old, he’s earned the right to do whatever he wants to do. Even at his advanced age, he’s more likely to fight a top opponent than Spence, Crawford or Tank. Boxing has a lot of problems, Manny ain’t one of them.
     
  3. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Okay, so you can't supply proof to 99% of the garbage you spew. But I can use reasoning that given Pac's age, Pac's desire to make money before his presidential run based on him not retiring, he would have fought in late 2019 if he was able to.

    The weigh in revealed a healthy looking Cotto would zero physical signs of dehydration. He didn't have the sunken eyes and drawn face that drained fighters do (watch the weigh in and then watch the weigh in of a Devin Haney fight as examples).

    Doing nothing for 2 years? 1 of those years is pandemic-related, so 1 year?

    Nah, you're a hater turd. Which is why everyone's shredding you in this thread.

    :lol:
     
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  4. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly. Spence and TC are the biggest culprits of this. We've had Andade in the same division as a Charlo as well. Tank is going to fight Donaire before any other top LW the way he's going.
     
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  5. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    I am literally the only person on this thread who has provided proof.

    Catch weights do affect people even if it's by a small amount. You ever had to cut weight before?

    That didn't seem to stop Errol Spence or Dillian Whyte.

    Or Ryan Garcia, who Pacquiao wants to fight. Goal post shifting?

    A hater wouldn't praise Pacquiao's past accomplishments and then say he deserves a big payday as a send off. You're an idiot.
     
  6. Philly161

    Philly161 "Fundamentals are the crutch of the talentless" banned Full Member

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    He's not holding up anything. Rn the only fight that matters at ww rn is spence vs bud and if anything pac fighting garcia should put an end to those two using pac to dodge each other.
     
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  7. JBoog89

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    Not sure how familiar you are with the slang, but "clout chaser" is an unambiguous insult, a term of disparagement.
     
  8. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    There is a difference between criticizing a boxer's actions and hating everything that they do. I enjoyed Pacuiao vs Bradley 2 and it is one of my favorite fights. Pacuiao vs Marquez is one of the greatest rivalries of all time.

    I criticize any boxer who name drops and then picks a completely different opponent. I have little patience for grown men getting their feelings hurt because I simply stated the truth.

    Does he have a belt? Yes.

    Does a boxer need to have all 4 belts to be undisputed? Yes.

    Is he fighting any of the other belt holders? No.

    I don't get why this is so complicated. And for the record, Spence and Crawford are also holding up undisputed by not fighting each other. But I'd love to see more posts where people accuse me of being biased and pointing fingers at other boxers as if I'm not going to criticize them too.
     
  9. Pimp C

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    Too many good fights for Garcia at 135 for him to take. I have no interest in this fight.
     
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  10. Philly161

    Philly161 "Fundamentals are the crutch of the talentless" banned Full Member

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    Did he JUST win the belt in his last fight? Yes (the real title at least i know he held the regular before)

    Is it mandatory that someone's first defense be a unification? No, in fact the modern politics of boxing make that usually not the case.

    I'm not saying you're biased against Pac, I assume this is just your consistent opinion and you apply it evenly across all weight classes and fighters. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt there. I'm saying I disagree with your opinion. I don't think Pac has to immediately try to unify or he's "holding up the division". Adonis Stevenson avoiding a mandatory for 3 years and also not trying to unify is holding up a division.

    The fact is detour fights like these for big money are part of boxing's long history, they aren't bad for the sport imo as long as they're legit fights between pro fighters who make a good showing, and while I have no doubt you have insisted that every champion in every division immediately attempt to unify as their first defense, that is not my position.
     
  11. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    I would cut Pacuiao some slack if he had at least defended the WBA title. I was not suggesting that you need to unify the moment you get a belt.

    He has neither defended the title nor unified and he did not "JUST" get the belt, it was more than a year ago--literally before COVID even happened.
     
  12. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good post. To be honest, anything at this point we get from Pac is just the icing. I don't know how many actually picked him to beat Thurman when they fought. And yet we still have a lot of posters call Pac shot.

    What SHOULD have almost everyone's ire is Crawford and Spence pusyfooting around fighting one another over a split. Two young non-PPV sellers acting like they are the huge A-side over the other.

    Spence Jr is 30. Crawford is 33. They will begin their physical decline soon, and both have resumes guys from the 90's would have by the time they are 25-26.
     
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  13. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    COVID has not gone away you know.
     
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  14. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    didn't seem to stop Errol Spence from fighting Danny Garcia despite coming off of a horrific car accident.
    I completely agree, the fight should have already happened by now and they need to stop beating around the bush.

    Do you agree Pacuiao was partly to blame for the Mayweather fight not happening for 5 years? His "50/50 or no fight" demand along with the drug testing disputes, etc?
     
  15. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, but it has put a damper on most big fights.

    I honestly don't give a damn about re-hashing the Mayweather - Pac negotiations. That horse has not only been beaten to death, but it's already glue and dog food now.