Someone explain the forced narrative of AJ having The Best HW Resume

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  1. The Long Count

    The Long Count Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Povetkin has An argument for best resume at HW.

    In his 13th bout he took on Larry Donald coming off a disputed loss to Valuev and a win over an ancient Holyfield.

    In his 14th bout he took on the faded but still world level former champion Chris Byrd. Byrd at this point had slipped, after Povetkin he attempted to cut weight and fight at light heavy with disastrous results. Going into this fight however he had beaten Davaryl Williamson, Jameel McCline (close) a draw with Golota and a gift with Oqendo . Outside his loss to Wlad In his previous 4 bouts. Although the fights were few years before.
    An excellent win for someone’s 14th pro bout.

    In his 15th bout he took on the undefeated 30-0 Fast Eddie Chambers. After a slow start, troubled by Eddies speed Povetkin stepped up his work rate and won a clear cut decision. While Eddie was surprisingly unranked by Ring at this time - he would be after his future wins over Dimitrenko and Samuel Peter, he would be rated #3 by Ring for his title shot against Wlad.
    It is an excellent win.
    Next up among significant wins was Marko Huck - while he only fought once in the division and therefore unranked at heavy - he was the number 1 cruiserweight at the time. A hard fought well deserved win for Povetkin.
    Next up Chagaev ring rated number 4 heavyweight with wins over Ruiz and Valuev. A very entertaining fight and excellent win for Povetkin. Chagaev would fight for years after and pick up several more quality wins.

    Then Povetkin fought Wlad. And lost an ugly 12 round hug fest. He was dominated but the tactics employed made the fight almost unwatchable. This version of Wlad was far superior to the version that lost at end of his career.

    Rebuilding his career after this defeat Povetkin faced a slew of decent/fringe former title challengers.
    His next significant win would be over Carlos Takam. Takam inexplicably was not ring rated when they fought despite fighting the highly touted Mike Perez to a draw many believed Takam deserved and then defeated a still viable Tony Thompson. Bleacher report had Takam as the number 5 world heavyweight going into the Povetkin bout. Strangely enough after the loss to Povetkin - Takam would be ring rated at 10.
    A very quality win.
    Next up would be Mike Perez the Cuban amateur standout was ring rated at 8 and lasted under 1 round by Povetkin.
    Add in the post Joshua win over world rated number 2 contender in the world Dillian Whyte in his backyard and I see an argument for Povetkin to have the best resume.

    Ring rated wins:
    #2 Whyte
    #4 Chagaev
    #8 Perez
    #1 at cruiser Huck

    Draw with # 8 Hunter

    Win over Future number 3 Chambers
    Win over Future number 10 Takam

    Win Former world title holder Byrd
    Win over former world title holder Rahman
    Wins Former world title challengers
    Donald, Charr, Duhaupas, Wach, Takam

    Quality resume.
     
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  2. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    But he was past prime at 39 years old too pal, that's a simple point you should be able to understand.

    39 year old Wlad beating Joshua is YOUR opinion, nothing more, just like it's MY opinion that 41 year Wlad put in the better performance.

    Stop forcing your agenda down other people's throats.
     
  3. Decker

    Decker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pov might be the best smallish HW this past decade.
    Unfortunate he might be too old to win the SCW (Bridger) title whenever that gets going.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You could see Sky pushing this with all their might from the moment it happened.

    And don't forget all the belts Wlad in Germany. Clearly one of the best wins ever by a British fighter overseas, but Sky were after it from the very first. There are people I know who don't remember Fury beating Wlad but know AJ did it.
     
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  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    Jinder Mahal
    Kevin Owens
    Daniel Bryan
    Shinsuka Nakamura
    Samoa Joe
    Kofi Kingston
    Kurt Angle
    Randy Orton
    Ricochet
    Jeff Hardy
    Sheamus
    Kazuto Ibushi
    Minoru Suzuki
    Kazuchika Okada
    Bubba Ray Dudley
    Christopher Daniels
    Rob Van Dam
    Jeff Jarrett
    Adam Cole
    CM Punk

    ...and those are all wins, many of them multiple fold. I mean, come on now.
     
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  6. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    I won't argue with you if you think AJs resume isn't as good as it looks on paper but if that is your stance how are you going to say Furys is any better? They both beat ancient Wlad, AJ has Whyte Parker Ruiz and Povetkin on his resume and Fury has Wilder and Chisora.
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    Boxing's AJ's boxing résumé : Tyson Fury's boxing résumé :: Wrestling's AJ's wrestling résumé : Tyson Fury's wrestling résumé. :sisi1
     
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  8. RB1702

    RB1702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The Povetkin who fought AJ would beat Wilder. Absolutely terrible matchup stylistically for Wilder.
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    Yeah, well... dry analysis of circumstance aside, if you actually open your eyeballs and watch the fights, Wlad put in less than half as much effort versus Fury as he did versus Joshua.

    Plus if they fought now, in 2021 even, Deontay would be KTFO into retirement by Sasha.
     
  10. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Would anyone like to go on record saying that Marquez was "unmotivated" vs Mayweather and didn't throw a lot of shots, but was "fired up, super motivated" for his 4th bout with Pac?

    It just doesn't work that way with a CONSISTENT champ like Vlad. He hated Fury from day one. It was obvious. Are we forgetting that he risked his entire reputation by trying to KO Fury with a headbutt toward the end of the fight? (Surely INTENTIONALBUTT understands the gravity of such an obvious, IntentionalButt).