Why you getting mad? I certainly don't live in that world. My score is just mine. I just find it odd you take what a boxer says prior to the fight in to your scoring criteria. Never heard anyone do that.
I learned some things about scoring I didn't know thanks to this thread. Here is what I learned. Boxing has 5 categories on which to score a round. Clean and hard punches. Defence. Effective aggression. Ring generalship. Promises made during buildup.
Relax Thadon, the thread is over you noob. Maybe you should actually look at the fight again to see who really won and it's that simple. Maybe you should give that a shot NOOBY.
Mad? Nah just joining a conversation same as you did giving my opinion. Like I said you're out of your mind if you don't believe perception plays a role In a sport as subjective as boxing is. That's all. If you want to have a back and forth that's fine but if you want to have a post war where you avoid actually addressing the post I'm not really that interested. oh no, he called me noob. You're a sharp one I see, I watched the fight when it happened. Guess what I did after that? I moved on, there was a 2nd even better fight in that same matchup and plenty of other good fights since.
i gave ggg the slight edge in the first, but it was very close. the second, canelo beat his ass clear, if you had ggg winning that one, ydksab.
Seeing as this poster will not likely ever contribute anything worthy, just placed him on ignore. Judge: Well, he said he was going to KO his opponent, he didn't, so the other guy won. His logic...
While I don't remember the fight in the punch-by-punch detail required to answer your questions, I do have my (relatively recent) card, which I tried to score as objectively as possible, being a fan of both guys and all good fighters: R1: GGG close 10-9 R2: Canelo 10-9 R3: Canelo 10-9 R4: Canelo close 10-9 R5: GGG very close 10-9 R6: Draw 10-10 R7: GGG close 10-9 R8: GGG close 10-9 R9: Canelo very close 10-9 R10: GGG close 10-9 R11: GGG 10-9 (his best round) R12: Canelo 10-9 Result: 115-114 Golovkin... but a draw is a fair result for any fight with this many close rounds. While I think Golovkin edged it on the cards, Canelo deserves a ton of credit for forcing GGG to chase him around and fight HIS fight, which I'd say was an homage to Mayweather, Lara and the other runners he'd fought.. I remember watching it live yelling **** like "Canelo's trying to fight like Floyd!" which GGG clearly didn't expect & never adjusted to. In fact, GGG looked downright foolish punching the air when he had Canelo up against the ropes... He should have gone inside and uglied it up as I mentioned in my previous post.
You accuse me of not being objective then proceed to prove you're a massive GGG nuthugger by claiming that neither fight was close lmao. And Kovalev was a fixed fight - why don't you tighten up your tinfoil hat you conspiracy nut! GGG fought well in the rematch, better than he did in the first match. He was more focused and prepared, but he still couldn't stop Canelo from landing the heavier leather in round after round. In the rematch, the first 6 rounds were easy to score - GGG won rounds 1 and 4, while Canelo won rounds 2, 3, 5 and 6. The last 6 rounds were much harder to score, but for your score to hold water, you'd have to give GGG each of the final 6 rounds at a minimum which is flat out mental. I have just there proved that your scorecard for the rematch is utterly absurd. After clearly losing rounds 2, 3, 5 and 6, GGG would have had to win 5 of the final 6 rounds to win the rematch, and he didn't win any of those rounds aside perhaps round 10 clearly. You have no clue what you're talking about, and it's my pleasure to bring you back down to earth from your GGG nutrider escapades.
It was absolutely what lost it for him, and it's caused fanboys like you to lose your mind over the result, because GGG's crying about Canelo not fighting Mexican Style in the first match backfired on GGG in the rematch. GGG talked himself into a style of fight that he didn't end up having the balls to fight, so when he got beat up whilst "running away" and lost the decision, he knew he had no basis to complain since he couldn't even fight the fight that he asked for out of Canelo. That's why he ran away into the dressing room without giving an interview. He couldn't give an interview because he knew he had failed to deliver to the fans the fight that he had called for. GGG embarrassed himself and his entire fanbase that night when he refused to fight the fight that he talked about wanting. And GGG's legacy will forever be tarnished as the boy who cried wolf. GGG cried wolf after he got outboxed and schooled by Canelo the first time, knowing that his only chance to win was to make Canelo stand in front of him and engage in toe to toe warfare. Canelo the warrior as he is though obliged and gave GGG exactly what he asked for in the rematch. Though as it turend out, GGG was all talk and no bite - in the end GGG wanted no part of the Mexican Style war that he asked for.
You "putting the poster on ignore" is you waiving the white flag. Like how GGG ran away to the dressing room after the rematch, too scared to talk about what just happened because he had just been beat up and embarrassed after asking for Mexican Style. He got Mexican Style alright, he got beat up Mexican Style then couldn't face the cameras because he let everyone down LOL.
Exactly, and while I disagree on a couple of your rounds, the main thing is that you recognize how close most of the rounds were which is what's important. You have pointed out that 8 out of the 12 rounds were either "close, very close, or even". That really says it all doesn't it. It's also important to point out that out of the 4 rounds which you claim weren't close, 3 of those 4 rounds according to you were Canelo rounds (2,3 and 12) and only 1 in your mind was a GGG round (round 11). So according to you, Canelo won more rounds clearly (3 to 1) than GGG did. You only have GGG winning ONE round clearly the entire fight, and that was a round (Round 11) that all 3 judges and almost everybody universally gave to Canelo. And I think this speaks to how good Canelo is, that he didn't allow GGG to win practically any rounds clearly. That's why it's so absurd to argue GGG won the fight clearly, or that it was a robbery that GGG didn't win, or anything along those lines. Even in the rounds where GGG outlanded him and Canelo lowered his output (rounds 7-9), you recognized how close each of these rounds still were and that's because Canelo landed the heavier, cleaner and more eye catching shots despite GGG's activity level in those rounds. This is incredibly important, you recognized how Canelo was slipping shots and being super elusive, and found openings to land the most telling and impactful shots in these rounds, like the big uppercuts that rocked GGG in rounds 7 and 8, and that huge right hand in the middle of round 9. I will have to go back and look at round 11, as this was seen by most as a strong Canelo round, but you thought this was not only a GGG round, but was GGG's best round. I will go into this round with more of an open mind since you've proved you seen many of these rounds for what they are.
While some people might see the first fight like this, my problem is that in the second fight, when Golovkin made Canelo chase him, whiff air and landed the heavier punches, the same posters that were praising Canelo for doing these things in the first fight, turn around and completely ignore GGG doing them in the second.
