Sanchez vs Gomez: care to comment on these opinions?

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  1. Mario040481

    Mario040481 Member Full Member

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    Someone left the following on a video I have posted of Gomez laying out a litany of reasons for his being beaten by Sanchez. I would be interested in reading other opinions on the subject, also on the subject of fighters giving these sorta reasons for their performances. Even when true or not, what do you think about them?
    "Since Sanchez died before his time, their are only three points to be made; 1) Gomez moved up in weight class, always a dangerous prop. 2) Did Gomez trained properly for the fight; 3) Did Gomez take Sanchez lightly. The last point is the least important but for those fight fans who think that it would've been impossible for Gomez to avenge in a second fight, simply don't understand boxing. Max S beat Joe Lewis in his first fight what happened in the second fight? One of the reason Gomez is the higher rated boxer in the history of boxing, simply stated, he accomplished more than Sanchez. Every great fighter is only challenged when he loses a fight the full measure of his heart is taken into account. Sanchez score a major upset, Gomez was the greater fighter."
    The video is in Spanish. Click the gear and turn on closed captions. click the gear again, select closed captions, then select translate, choose English, read English captions
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  2. fistfighter

    fistfighter 44-3-1 (42KO's) Full Member

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    I think Gomez could have won the rematch.
    I think he could have lost, too.
    I would have liked to see Gomez win the rematch.
    What I like, seldom happens.
    But sometimes it does.
     
  3. Mario040481

    Mario040481 Member Full Member

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    Fair enough. I can only agree, with first hand experience even, that what i like, and especially what I want, seldom happens. When I find a cure all for that, I'll fill you in. Cool?
     
  4. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Excuses are just that. Excuses
     
  5. fistfighter

    fistfighter 44-3-1 (42KO's) Full Member

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    I don't think Gomez took Sanchez lightly, but I don't think he prepared as he should have. But I am only saying that because that is what was said about him in a documentary I watched. I think a rematch would have had them both in the ring at their best, come what may. Too bad it never happened. The same documentary had Gomez saying he cried when Sanchez died, because he knew there could never be a rematch. I believe that was a true sentiment.
     
  6. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And I know he is the consensus GOAT at 122. But 122 is a much traditionally weaker division than featherweight. Did he really achieve more than Sal? Well his resume is weaker than Sal's.
     
  7. Mario040481

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    Hey, I have a feeling that maybe the video you are talking about may be the one I posted, which I edited into my original post with directions on how to read the captions translated into English if you would need that.
     
  8. fistfighter

    fistfighter 44-3-1 (42KO's) Full Member

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    It was the same one. I have watched it several times. I speak Spanish so didn't need a translation. Great Documentary. Great boxer. Great man!!!!!
     
  9. Mario040481

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    So what is the deal with his health here and today? I do not remember but I thought I heard that he was suffering something at the time of this being made and then I believe I have seen a more recent interview where he looks worse and his voce is even much more so?
     
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  10. fistfighter

    fistfighter 44-3-1 (42KO's) Full Member

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    He said he got hit in the throat several times during the Lupe Pintor fight. Made it sound like it was done on purpose, or at least used it as evidence of how savage the battle was for him. Claims that to be the cause of why his speech is raspy.

    He lived pretty hard too, then the drugs, really took a toll on him at the end of his career and more-so after retirement. He isn't a young man anymore and has put on weight. He didn't mention a specific ailment, but those things mentioned in the doc are contributing factors.

    His wife is a rare woman. More precious than rubies. She stuck with him through all the trouble when most women would have left him. Touching to see them together in church and interacting together. Like I said, great documentary.
     
  11. Mario040481

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    Last, I have a version up of sanchez vs Gomez in spanish commentary in a quality that is likely the best on YT if you care to ever see it
     
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  12. fistfighter

    fistfighter 44-3-1 (42KO's) Full Member

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    I will definitely check it out tomorrow! Thanks for the heads up.
     
  13. Mario040481

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    Sorry! I promise I will leave you alone with the responses after this one!!
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  14. ChrisJS

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    Styles make fights and Sanchez was bigger and had an iron chin and endless stamina. Gomez was never going to beat him because he had to attack and Sanchez would be able to counter him and the times Gomez would get through I don’t think he could do so enough to take Sanchez into any seriously rough moments.

    Their careers are close in accomplishments. Sanchez is overall slightly greater because he has the dominant head to head win, plus their results against Nelson. Gomez has the extra divisions and Zarate win so it gets closer and his talent was rare.

    Gomez was ill-prepared for Sanchez. It’s a combination of underestimating him and living the high life. He took off on a honeymoon cruise and came back to camp like three weeks out and overweight. Having said that, Zarate was sick as a dog when he was facing Gomez and wanted to postpone but the contract stipulated he’d get fined more than his pay. So Gomez got a win that’s probably more dominant than it would have been and a loss that’s probably more thorough than it would have been had he prepared better.
     
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  15. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Wilfredo Gomez and Salvador Sanchez were my favorites among the smaller fighters back then, also the great Alexis Arguello. Sanchez was a unique fighter to come along, a clean fighter with great counterpunching skills and movement, who also had an iron chin as well as unending stamina. He defeated a very great champion to win the WBC title, Danny Little Red Lopez on Feb 2 1980, TKO 13. His title challengers carried more merit, Lopez, Patrick Ford, Juan La Porte, Pat Cowdell, Azumah Nelson, Roberto Castanon, and yes, the great Wilfredo Gomez. He was headed to a potential showdown with another great champion, Alexis Arguello, at the time of his untimely death. Gomez also defeated another great champion in Carlos Zarate, who was climbing a next weight class in an attempt to conquer Wilfredo in 1978.