Calzaghe fans! Be honest, would Joe have won if he'd been fighting 2001-2005 B-Hop??

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  1. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    Of course a younger Hopkins would win. In my opinion he beat Calzaghe at 43, but whether you though he won or not, it's obvious a younger BHop would win quite easily.


    I agree with this. If the 2001-2005 B-Hop had fought Calzaghe at this peak (whatever that was, say 2003-5), Hopkins would've won. It was so obvious to anyone with a shred of boxing knowledge that in their fight it was Hopkins who was the far more skilful and powerful boxer, it was just age and the unavoidable energy and stamina issues of being 43 that meant he lost in the judges eyes (not in mine though).
     
  2. drvooh

    drvooh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Since there is an IF involved, I'd say " IF " Calzaghe never had hand problems. he'd win ( at 168 ) anyway
     
  3. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    There's no way that Hopkins could ever beat Calzaghe ... he's not that type of fighter.
     
  4. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The fight was a split decision, one of the judges gave it to Hopkins. Hopkins had previously been beaten twice by Taylor and was 43.

    A younger Hopkins only has to do a bit more and he wins that fight. Things like this annoy me because in a few month we will be having; Would Calzaghe beat a younger jones.... "well he beat an old one and I can't see much more a younger one would do"...


    Calzaghe was red hot favourite to beat Hopkins. Hopkins would have been red hot favourite had he been a younger version. That should tell people all they need to know. All the bookies would have Hopkins winning if they fought at a younger age.
     
  5. criollo

    criollo fearless Full Member

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    well, styles make fights and b-hop had the right gameplan not the right age!
     
  6. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    Age had nothing to do with it ... the Hopkins that fought Calzaghe didn't look any different from the Hopkins that fought Tito or DLH ... or Winky ...

    I think thats a bunch of bull**** ... I gave the Calzaghe fans **** before the fight and the one thing I said in a thread is that the age isn't going to mean **** ... they both been in the game since the early 90's ... Hopkins since the late 80's

    Once you're in the game that long ... have had 20 title defense each ... never been knocked out ... with the type of consistancy ... age and all that other bull**** gets thrown out the window.
     
  7. darwoody

    darwoody New Member Full Member

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    Thats the truth. The Hopkins fans all want to take him back to his prime and forget that Joe is also past his best.
     
  8. fitzgeraldz

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    No one said anything about age when Hopkins beat Tarver --
     
  9. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd take a prime Hopkins over a prime Calzaghe.
     
  10. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    Calzaghe will not beat Jones
     
  11. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A younger Hopkins wouldnt have held so much and spoiled. The result? Joe would have landed much more. Had Hopkins been younger, Joe's victory would have been wider.
     
  12. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    There's not too many people in the history of the division that can **** with Calzaghe seriously ... he's a different kinda fighter ... now with that being said he's beatable ... it just hasn't happened yet (or might not happen) ... I don't hold him in that high of rerguard but ... hell its hard to have 21 defenses, no matter who you're fighting ... its hard to stay undefeated for 15 yrs ... no matter who you're fighting.
     
  13. criollo

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  14. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    I agree ... Hopkins wasn't as lethal as people are making him out to be ... he was a boring ass fighter ... who held alot and hit while he was holding.

    He was never this devastating KO puncher or anything like that ... he wasn't even exciting to watch ...

    Like Roy Jones said ... he got his name off one guy ...
     
  15. fitzgeraldz

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    What was so different with the Hopkins that fought Calzaghe ... no one thought he was too much over the hill ... he did win a LHW championship by beating Tarver.