How long would wlad of lasted with a prime mike tyson?

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Wlad would get iced early by Tyson. I'm thinking a couple of rounds.

 

It would be over very fast because we all know how Wald would react when his opponent is all over him.

 

I will go against the grain and say that Wlad would have a chance not only to last the distance against Tyson, but maybe even win. He would definitely deserve to be the underdog, but Wlad is sorely underestimated by a lot of people, and Tyson waaaaay overestimated.

Wlad would understand Tyson's speed and power, but he is not far behind in either category. In fact, they are pretty much even in one-punch power. The big differences are chin and aggressiveness. If Wlad opened up early, he might get sparked, or might surprise Tyson. Either way, he would be a tougher match for Mike than anybody he fought pre-Holyfield.

Wlad's chin is his weakness, but he has gotten much better at keeping it away from opponents - especially shorter ones.

Tyson was known for getting frustrated if he couldn't end a fight early. If Wlad managed to keep Mike at a distance, use his own underrated speed to maintain that distance, and use his power to keep Mike honest (much more power than Holyfield or Douglas possessed), then Wlad could concievably win a decision or late KO.

Wlad's heart and stamina are underrated, and if he could land enough hard punches to make Mike wary (which has happened to Tyson), he could keep that chin from getting checked.

Tyson's chin was good, but not all-time great. He was dropped and stopped by weaker punchers than Wlad. He was a front-runner who often imploded when things didn't go his way (not always-but often). Wlad is bigger, stronger, faster, more polished, and more powerful than any of Tyson's opponents in his prime ('87-'90). I would argue that Wlad had a good a chance as any to unseat "the baddest man on the planet".

I would lean toward a Tyson late TKO, but I would not automatically rule Wlad out. Wlad's biggest weakness is his confidence, not anything physical. If he put it all together for one night, he could take out Tyson. Hell, Buster Douglas did it. An equally-motivated Wlad could, too.

Mike was even more pyschologically fragile than Klitschko. Despite his talk, he was often scared in the ring and unsure of himself. If he saw a real-life Ivan Drago holding his own, Tyson could fold just as easily as Klitschko is assumed to.

Hey, I could be wrong. This is just how it seems that this hypothetical fight could go.

 

LennoxGoat says it exactly like it is.

Fans of Tyson act AS IF TYSON had KOed EVERY OPPONENT within the first round. This is ridiculous.

ALL OF TYSON'S KOs are against SMALLER (6'3'' and smaller) or LOW QUALITY opponents. (All of them except Lou Savarese.)

IN OTHER WORDS: Tyson did not KO a single TALLER (6'3.5''+) HIGHER QUALITY OPPONENT. And I am talking about prime or non-prime Tyson.
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IN OTHER WORDS: Tyson went to the scorecards OR EVEN LOST against EVERY taller higher quality opponent he has EVER FACED (except Savarese, if you want to call Savarese a higher quality opponent).
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IN OTHER WORDS: All the childhood pictures of Tyson that you have in your mind where the opponents fly to the left and right are Tyson beating bums or Tyson beating smaller opponents. You cannot compare these opponents to Klitschko. Wake up, childhood is over.
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In case you didn't know: Wladimir would be Tysons TALLEST opponent, whereas Tyson would be Klitschko's SMALLEST opponent. Look at this picture: http://www.boxnews.com.ua/foto.php?gid=56&id=14991&lng=en#top
This is ODLH with Wladimir Klitschko. Tyson was SMALLER that Oscar.

(I bet these threads would GO THE EXACT SAME WAY about Lennox Lewis, had Tyson-Lewis not taken place: "Lewis has a glass chin. Tyson KO1").

MOREOVER:
Tyson was very affected by an opponent's good jab (see Buster, see Lewis) and an opponent's good arm work (= using one's arms to hinder Tyson from hitting). Wlad is perfect in jabbing and perfect in arm defense (= he rarely gets hit because he uses his arms so well). Watch Tyson vs Bonecrusher Smith (UD12) as a good example of how limited prime Tyson was and how easily his attacks could be suppressed. You will get reminded of Wlad's arm defense. Watch Brewster vs Klitschko I, how Brewster came rushing in (how you suppose Tyson would do) and how well he was handled by Wlad in the first round.

MOREOVER:
All the people who think that "Wlad's chin is too weak" have to look it from the other perspective too: How long can TYSON's chin withstand a constant bashing? Wladimir Klitschko HAS A HIGHER KO rate than Mike Tyson (and especially against better opposition).

MOREOVER:
Tyson was like an animal (remember the ear biting?): As soon as you punched your statement into his face Tyson accepted you as the alpha-animal and Tyson behaved like a puppy licking you. My god he even stroked Lennox' face after the fight.

I don't think that Wlad would have won EVERY time against Tyson (who would?) but most of the time.

 

Klitschko didn't clinch half as much as Muhammad Ali usually did (40+ seconds per round is typical for Ali). Do you call Ali scared?

 

Musashi, I agree with nearly everything you say, however I don't think Tyson could score a late KO.

Tyson was a first-rounder-KOer, his latest KOs were in the 7 (except for Tyson KO10 Ribalta, but even there he floored chinachin Ribalta in the 2nd round already). So the longer the fight the lesser Mike's chances.

 

The thing is though,what would a prime tyson do if wlad hit him with some of those vicious jabs,look at how ****ing frank bruno had him in some trouble early on in there first fight,and id say bruno is kind of the same style as wlad,in that he was fairly robotic.Tyson may not do as well as some say on here,of course when he tags him with a huge shot,wlad would probaly panic and may get knocked out badly,but id say it could take a while,maybe 8 rounds or so,come on if mitch green and others can last a long time,then wlad who is ****ing huge and strong as hell could do as well

 

As if this means something. The whole 1980ies thing is overrated:
If you delete the obvious bums and chinachins from Ruddock's record prior to Tyson then Ruddock has KOed exactly 2 (T-W-O) somewhat worthy opponents: featherfist Bonecrusher Smith (44-17(7!)) and featherfist Michael Dokes. If Ruddock is considered "the most powerful puncher" then no wonder you think that Mike Tyson "survived" his punches. But by simply LOOKING at his record you see that Ruddock is overrated. Moreover Ruddock cannot be a powerpuncher because Ruddock is a natural cruiser. All natural cruisers (Ali, Byrd, Moorer, Toney etc) are featherfistst at heavyweight.

Yes, this is a valid statement. Although Douglas is also not the strongest puncher.

 

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