You're moving the goalposts and reaching heavily here. Fury was up at the count of 9 and was asked by the ref - you know the guy who has the responsibility to end the fight - if he was okay and if he could walk, which he did.. This happens in so many fights I don't get what your issue is, there isn't an expectation to immediately start the fight as soon as the count hits 10 (apart from in your imagination). So basically your line of reasoning is, Wilder is clearly losing the fight, he lands a knockdown on Fury who is clearly fit to continue.. But you want to prematurely end the fight based on your misunderstanding of a fairly flexible principle in boxing (the ten count) .. I'm no Fury fan but you come across heavily biased for Wilder
Guarantee this will be picked apart and disagreed with by someone who thinks JCC vs Taylor was a good stoppage
It happens more today with prelim bouts. This doesn't happen in heavyweight title fights. Which is why I've tried to provide examples. And I could provide A LOT more. Most heavyweight title fights in history don't include a 20 second stoppage of action after a guy hits the floor because the referee isn't sure if the guy who got dropped can continue or not. Fury actually got more time to recover than the break in action in Dempsey-Tunney II for the infamous "long count." And people talked about the break in action in that fight for nearly 100 years. All I'm saying is, heavyweight history would've totally changed if the referee in other fights gave those boxers who went down the same time to recover as Fury got. And he didn't get extra time because Wilder did anything wrong. He got it because the referee wasn't sure if Fury was good to go or not. Give Foreman 20 seconds, the bell for round eight ends and Foreman walks back to his corner and gets a minute's rest between rounds before going back out to face Ali. Give Patterson 20 seconds after each knockdown, and there aren't even seven knockdowns against Ingemar. There wouldn't be enough time. There are maybe half that. And then Floyd goes back and gets a minute's rest between rounds. If Fury was fine, wave Wilder in. If he wasn't fine, and clearly the ref wasn't sure, stop it. That's all.
Should we start a thread of all the heavyweight title fights that would've ended differently if the guy getting knocked down got 20 seconds before action resumed? I've already named a handful.
You can start whatever threads you want. Do you agree with Wilder? Should this be classed as his greatest ko victory?
He's goading Fury. (And, apparently, you.) LOL Who is inside whose head? Jesus. Lighten up. Ali said, after Fight 1, he REALLY beat Frazier. "Scandalous, I tell you. Scandalous. Outrageous. Unbelievable." Yes, Wilder is the first boxer ever to say he ACTUALLY WON a fight that ended in a draw and a knockdown he scored should've actually been a knockout. Never happened before ever ... except EVERY time it happens. (LOL) He certainly didn't say it to get a rise out of the guy he fought. (rolls eyes)
It's a count not how many seconds on the clock and it is at the ref's discretion. And actually it happens all the time in many fights, why are you just talking about heavyweights. The first knockdown I could think of was Lomachenko Linares and the time between Loma hitting the floor at getting up was 14-15 seconds. Go watch it. Clearly a flash knockdown where Loma could continue. If this fight was stopped because of that, that'd be ****ing ridiculous. This happens all the time. You have absolute no idea of the difference of Fury's mental state at 10 seconds and at 20 seconds, pure conjecture. What we do know is that he was up at a 9 count and the ref gave him instructions, which he followed and indicated he was fine, then he proceeded to make noodle legs look like it was his first boxing session.
It sounds like you just want to give credit to a guy who was clearly losing (albeit the rounds were low volume punching) and his only saving grace was one punch in the final round that a fury got up from
All the examples I posted were the referee's discretion. My point is, historically, most haven't gotten 20 actual seconds from the time they hit the deck to the time the ref says resume fighting. And the ref is supposed to make his count, wipe the gloves and either resume the fight or not. This ref didn't. He said, walk over there. Now come back and walk over here. If referees throughout boxing history did that, all of boxing history would be different.
And it sounds to me like people shouldn't be given 20 actual seconds to recover from a knockdown ... because that's not how the rules are written. If all fighters would've been given the same amount of time Fury was given after his back first hit the floor, many of the dramatic conclusions to fights I've watched over the last 40 years would've been altered. It doesn't matter who the fighters are, you will never hear me be in favor of a guy getting 20 actual seconds to recover from a clean punch because the ref can't figure out if he's good enough to go or not. The ref blew it. I don't blame either of the fighters. I like them both. If Zack Clayton told George Foreman to walk to that corner and now come back over here, the bell would've rang while George was walking around, and he'd have gone back to his corner. And he'd have gotten a minute's rest, and the bell for round nine would've rang. Does George get a second wind? Does Ali start to wear down from all the arm punches and body shots he took as the rounds add up? All, I know is it doesn't end with an Ali KO in 8.
Not even joking, Wilder shouldn’t be near a ring ever again - his mental health is all over place and another potential beating could be the final straw. He’s done well financially for somebody with limited technical ability and been a world champion - he needs to take that and run.
Deontay also lists inventing the wheel as one of his greatest achievements, as he would have invented it had it not been already.
