Heavyweight Top 15 resume and skill today

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  1. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Fury
    2. Joshua
    3. Povetkin
    4. Wilder
    5. Usyk
    6. Ruiz
    7. Hunter
    8. Joyce
    9. Ortiz
    10. Whyte
    11. Parker
    12. Pulev
    13. Chisora
    14. Dubious
    15. Hrgovic
     
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  2. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury has only 3 wins in the top 15
    Joshua has 6 wins in the top 15!
    Usyk and whyte have 2 wins in the top 15.

    Usyk has the third most wins in the top 15 in just 12 months.

    So usyk is more than ready for a titleshot.

    At the same time this is a bankruptcy declaration for the contenders
     
  3. znalniaskas

    znalniaskas Member Full Member

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    It has to do with the potential paydays that you can get.
    lots of money if you make it to a title shot, at the same time that prevents most contenders and their handlers from taking any risks on the way up.
     
  4. RB1702

    RB1702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You’re high as a kite if you think Fury has a better resume than AJ. Ruiz and Whyte should both be above Wilder.
     
  5. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury's best wins are a 39 yo Wlad.. Which was actually a close fight...and then avoided the rematch...Wlad loses to the first person close to his own size that has boxing skill.. And someone he is unable to clinch into submission.. Furys other win is a right hand who is unable to be trained. Wilder was getting pieced up by Ortiz before Ortiz got overconfident and got folded into spaghetti

    Not at all that impressive tbh
     
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  6. xnico

    xnico New Member banned Full Member

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    AJ's best wins are men in their 40s well past their prime (Klitschko & Povetkin). AJ went life and death with a washed up Klitschko. AJ didn't even win all rounds against Povetkin. AJ also suffered a humiliating loss to Ruiz, being definitively stopped. In the rematch, his team bumped up the ring size from 18ft to 22ft and he proceeded to use every inch of it to run to a points decision on Ruiz.

    Not at all that impressive tbh
     
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  7. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not saying AJs resume is good you silly tit fanboy but it is better than Furys.

    Ruiz, Parker and Whyte are all wins against guys that are young. Yes that ring was massive, but Ruiz's footspeed has always absolutely **** so, although a smaller ring would have upped his chances, I doubt it'd have that much of an effect.

    And Furys resume is still utter trash
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    In terms of skill

    In whatever order you like

    Usyk and Fury are the top 2

    Then you have the likes of AJ, Povetkin, Hunter, Ortiz and Parker below them

    In terms of resume (wins at HW) I think most would consider AJ and Fury the top 2. AJ's resume has more depth to it than Fury's but so does Povetkin's.

    Fury gets credit for dethroning two long reigning champs in their backyards where everything was against him and beating (forget the corrupt judge's cards) The Tuscaloser when he was an inactive drug-ravaged muscle atrophied shell of himself who literally hadn't fought anyone with a pulse in three years

    I'm not including Hrgovic because he's still a prospect albeit a beast

    Here he is as a young amateur more than holding his own against a 28-0 Tuscaloser who was a month or so away from his 28th birthday

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    Joyce is the most deceptively good fighter in the division and much better than the eye test would have you believe he is.
     
  9. Tyistall

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    Fury has beaten Wilder and Chisora, who has 10 losses. Fury fans seem to have amnesia when it comes to Fury fighting bums, taking PEDs and avoiding the best heavyweights out there.
     
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  10. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd have Whyte a few spots higher but that's a decent list.
     
  11. cuchulain

    cuchulain VIP Member Full Member

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    I would move Wilder down to 6, move Usyk and Ruiz up one place each, and then swap their positions.

    So it would look like...

    4. Usyk
    5 Ruiz
    6. Wilder
    7. Hunter

    The rest of my list would look like yours.
     
  12. Decker

    Decker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ty back in the day they'd say your needle is stuck. Most modern athletes take some kind of performance enhancing drug. Some are better at getting away w/it.

    Chisora has a few bad beats - most of his losses have been to top HWs. Before Whyte was iced by old Pov most had Dillian top 5. Two of Dillian's top wins were vs. Chisora where he went life and death with Dereck. Fury had two comfy wins vs Chisora. Fury also lost some prime years fighting his demons. Fury and AJ are the top two now. Not sure why that has your undies all bunched up.
     
  13. Tyistall

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    I would say that I am one of the few who's needle is NOT stuck. I see Fury for what he is, a con man and an overrated cheat. I saw right through Wilder and it's the same with Fury. And my undies are just fine. I just am now fooled by Fury and his magic tricks. Beating Euro-bums and avoiding the best for years, should not make you the number one fighter. Throw in a PEDs conviction followed by a cover story of mental illness (which has magically gone away all of a sudden) and what's left? A fighter who has successfully fooled nost fight fans into thinking he is great. When he is in fact overrated and largely untested. Similar to What Wilder was before the last fight. And just like Wilder, Fury will get pol-axed when/if he fights AJ
     
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  14. piprules

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    Bububuttt he pokes his tongue out and puts his hands behind his back when he is far enough away not to be hit, surely that makes him the goat?
     
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  15. cuchulain

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    That sounds like you saw Wilder get pol-axed when he fought AJ.

    And since that fight hasn't happened, you might be a wee bit delusional.



    But leaving that aside, are you telling us that Fury will shortly be getting exposed, just like AJ was when he faced Andy ?
     
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