Why isn't there much hype around Chocolatito vs Estrada II?

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  1. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Let's face it., these types of fights are mainly for the hardcore fans. It's going to be another great fight(like Valdez/Berchelt) that most will miss out on.

    Last weekend there were very few of us on the Valdez/Berchelt threads whereas it seemed like the majority of people here were watching the Broner match.
     
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  2. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    We need PSIs.
     
  3. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Casuals.... Only hardcores like us appreciate this fight.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    If they were still around, HBO would have for sure had this and would've been promoting it for months now. :xqw
     
  5. ShanannaGator11

    ShanannaGator11 "She said I could." Full Member

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    Chocalito can do it but his punch catching and pressure has to be on point. Both things he is good at. He may have lost a step but it's a step most fighters never had.
     
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  6. aaalbert

    aaalbert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm pretty hype!!
     
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  7. ShanannaGator11

    ShanannaGator11 "She said I could." Full Member

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    Can't wait it's gonna be great
     
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  8. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would say they make more noise for Canelo than Joshua (haven't studies this in detail, just my impression), but certainly the HWs get more attention than the super flyweights.

    I made a calculated decision based on the fact that ESPN was going to do that thing where they have an awkward half hour gap in the broadcast and I can record ESPN for immediate watching but Showtime makes you wait.
     
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  9. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Roman Gonzalez has low PSI power, also not a a leaping puncher.

    He is very accurate with one of the best predictive capabilities, some how he knows what his opponents will do and throws punches based on that, allowing him to land high % impact punches that can deliver a KO even if its a raw 700psi punch. Almost half the raw punching power of Deontay Wilder.

    The punch absorption % + duration of impact allows for the KO. Explosions that cause concussions are usually 300psi over a few seconds duration, with Roman Gonzalez short reach he has to land perfect punches to get a +60% psi absorption & duration of impact is limited because of his short reach. This limitation on shorter reach & low PSI means only perfect boxers can deliver a KO, a 0.22 short instrument in talented hands.
     
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  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I think most fans are moving away from the lower divisions, or rather all the ones below HW, because they're coming to the realization that the glamour division, which is ruled with an iron fist by the warriors from the tiny island of Great Britain even though it only has a minuscule population which is a mere fraction of the likes of the populations of the US, Russia, Mexico, and Japan etc, is the only one that really matters at the end of the day. They wanna see the big dogs going at it against each other for global supremacy, not poodles, pomeranians and chihuahuas fighting over scraps of meat and mangy old half chewed bones.
     
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  11. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Once you dip below lightweight, casual interest begins to tail off in a big way.

    The Super-Flys all deserve more money but then, ironically, that's what makes the division so good.

    What's funny is there's probably more talent in the bottom eight divisions than there is in the nine above, particularly when you consider the likes of Tank Davis and Lomachenko are better suited to 130.

    115 lbs currently has two guys who are top 10 P4P material, one who used to be in the top 10, and one who used to be #1.
     
  12. DramaShow

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    What date is it again? Don't think I'll be able to watch as exams when schools reopen unfortunately.

    Gonzales is one of my favourite fighters but I think Estrada will beat him on points.
     
  13. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    HBO were the best at promoting their best fighters regardless of weight class.
     
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  14. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Because casuals don't care about good boxing.
     
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  15. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here’s a look back at their classic fight, dating all the way back to 2012, nearly 9 years ago. Great, highly competitive scrap. Chocolatito edged it but Gallo made it a very tough fight. The first fight took place when they were young and still improving. It's a shame that we couldn't see the rematch much sooner when they were both at the height of their peak, before Sor Rungvisai broke Chocolatito and set him back for a bit.

    Surprised that it took this long for the 2 to finally meet again. How there isn't any big headlines or talk about this rematch on DAZN is beyond me.

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