To say Haye beats Wlad based on this...

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  1. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fair enough, though his reflexes would help him to avoid alot of Wlads punches I think.
     
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  2. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Erm maybe because Wlad had been stopped by lesser punchers.

    Haye is a big cruiserweight puncher he is a big puncher period.
     
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  3. DoumB

    DoumB HOYA KO1 PRESSCOT Full Member

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    do u actualy know boxing? :patsch wow some of u clearly need some instruction, being a big puncher at CW doenst mean he will be a big puncher at HW, knocking a guy ****in fraudley knocked out dont mean **** power is one thing, sam peter had power, a lot more then haye, (HW) brewster had power(knocked him out once) but recently took a horrific beating, power is one thing but its not like the guy had terrific power at HW


    this is a hypejob, a train that will probably crash before facing klitshcko.
     
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  4. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Maybe Peter was green, but he was in the best shape he's been in and at a higher weight every time.. i've not seen his abs since the Wlad fight.

    But more importantly, i think he lost that edge. Going into and during the Klitschko fight, he had that fire, the idea that he was indestructible, that he'd always find that KO. That fight and the McCline one took something out of him i think. He did make some technical improvements, but he's never going to beat Wlad there: he needs to make it a rough fight, a war, and he already tried very well the first time. We'll see what happens.
     
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  5. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    The CW limit of 200lbs is pretty close to heavyweight, close enough that it's pretty clear that if someone can punch hard against men weighing 200lbs that their punches will also affect men weighing 20-40lbs more.

    It's not Haye's power that is the unknown factor at heavyweight - the guy can ****ing punch.

    It's his chin...
     
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  6. derrick

    derrick 6ft4 215 bring it on Full Member

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    Wrong Thompson went down twice in a fight a few years ago in the first round and got up and knocked the other guy out in the same round. THompson was pure garbage thats only been fighting 10 years and still Wlad had all kinda problems with him. Wlad would get ate alive by areola.
     
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  7. LennoxGOAT

    LennoxGOAT Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dude, seriously, who do you still post? Honestly...
     
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  8. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good point,sean!


    Haye hasnt fought a decent name at heavy weight yet. Lets wait and see how he fares against a good oponent at heavy weight !
     
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  9. ROC

    ROC Active Member Full Member

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    Haye has yet to prove himself at Heavyweight, just because the guy can hit a little doesn't mean he will be able to be effective against a much stronger heavy, he just hasn't been tested yet!
     
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  10. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do u actualy know boxing? :patsch wow u clearly need some instruction.

    Lets have a look at the biggest punchers in history - Foreman, Shavers, Louis, Tyson etc. Guess what? They could have all made the 200lb limit - they are Haye's size. So being a big puncher at about 200-215 doesnt make you a big puncher at heavyweight now? Did I miss meeting?

    Its not like Haye is coming up from middleweight now is it? Question his chin by all means, thats fair game, but the guy hits like a ****ing mule.
     
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  11. TamaTonga

    TamaTonga Member Full Member

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    haye wont do **** wlad still gonna kick hes ass:smoke
     
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  12. derrick

    derrick 6ft4 215 bring it on Full Member

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    Thanks. They will wake up soon as wlad fights someone worth a ****.
     
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  13. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye is the undisputed cruiserweight champ numbnuts. Champs moving up have often got fights for titles straight off or after very few fights.

    Who had SRL fought at MW? He didn't deserve a shot at Hagler, he hadnt fought 1 ranked MW, not one! Who had mayweather fought at welter? Not one ranked oponent, not one! Who had Calzaghe fougth at LHW? Not one ranked opponent not one! What is the boxing world thinking letting this go on!

    Or is it okay for the other guys to do it, just not Haye, because, well, he's not American and you hadnt heard of him till recently?
     
    LiamE, Jul 12, 2008
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  14. blood_lust

    blood_lust Active Member Full Member

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    bump
     
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