Does anyone put Canelo over Barrera, Morales & Marquez...?

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  1. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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  2. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    He is a great fighter with a very good resume. I don’t think it’s right to start ranking vis-a-vis the other Mexican greats until his career is finished whereby he can be assessed properly in context. I think he has a great chance of equalling the status of MAB, Marquez and JMM but doubt anyone will surpass JCC Snr and Salvador Sanchez. Of course the premature death of Sanchez (May his blessed soul rest in perfect peace) prevents us from knowing what would have happened in a rematch against my more experienced seasoned Uncle Azumah. However the wins against Azumah Nelson, Danny Lopez and Wilfredo Gomez all time greats gives Sanchez iconic status.
     
  3. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    I will say that he seems committed to beat the best fighters or those acknowledged the best at 168 pounds. Taken care of Callum Smith the Super 6 winner and WBA champion, BJS next the WBO Champion and then Caleb Sweet Hands Plant the IBF Champion to unify all the belts. I feel he will if he succeeds face Benaividez who is an absolute wrecking ball monster.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    He may be jostling his way into that crowd, as Mac said above - but anyone thinking Canelo has already clearly surpassed any of the "feather fab four" needs to have a word with themselves and wonder why they're such a giddy fangirl.
     
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  5. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mike Tyson recently had Canelo on his podcast with Eddy Reynoso. About eight minutes in he began to fanboy over Salvador Sanchez.

    A key point he brought up - much in the spirit of the OP - was that Sanchez raised his game against his best opponents.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    Who fanboyed - Mike or Canelo? I could see it being either, with the former being a student (and even, I'd say, historian) of the game and near contemporary and the latter perhaps viewing him among his domestic idols.
     
  7. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson.

    Canelo said he didn't really study Sanchez.
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    :duh He should lose Mexi-points for that.
     
  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Are you a Margarito defender or something? It's just a "piece of thread"? What are you saying? The fact is that Margarito was accused of using 1) Used pads 2) Hardened wraps.

    That's a highly suspicious wrap, there's no way around it. Wraps aren't supposed to split open at the knuckle during combat. The fact that it did only increases the suspicion that the wrap was illegal.
     
  10. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wraps don’t break. If they did, the hand would be damaged as well. It’s a piece of thread.
     
  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The wrap is split over the knuckle. You describing it as a "piece of thread" doesn't change what it is and how suspicious it looks. Wraps aren't supposed to break, and since you can see that it's broken over the knuckle, that makes it more suspicious because the only way it would break like that is if the wrap became hard which is what he was accused of.
     
  12. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Again, if the wrap was hard enough to crack it would be hard enough to damage his hands. Oh yea, his hands who several people touched after the fight and not a single person has come forward to say how hard they felt, I guess they were all in on it too.
     
  13. shadow111

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    The sweat from the hands would keep the inside of the wrap softer. The outside would harden while the inside stayed soft.
    Whoever shook his hand in the ring after he removed his gloves wouldn't be feeling around the knuckle for how hard the wrap was. It wouldn't be something that anyone would pay attention to or notice.
     
  14. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So the theory went from the sweat hardens the plaster as the rounds went on, to the sweat makes the wraps softer. That’s like saying a caterpillar can be a butterfly at the same time. It just does not work like that.
     
  15. drenlou

    drenlou Tres Delinquentes Full Member

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    Not yet, but by the end of his career its possible that he surpasses even Chavez Sr. We'll just have to wait and see.