Wlad once again shows that he can adjust, and win in a tough fight...

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  1. LennoxGOAT

    LennoxGOAT Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Uppercuts, uppercuts, uppercuts. Wlad's biggest offensive weakness and it is not even close.
     
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  2. Kolya

    Kolya Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, and being able to have time and range to get punches off does that for you. Wlad's not comfortable when someone's pressuring him a lot, but we've known that for a while. Thompson just confirmed it, I guess.
     
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  3. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This content is protected
     
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  4. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    I really don't rank many heavyweights in the pound for pound rankings. Especially heavyweights of Wlad's size. It's too much guesswork as it is, especially when we are talking about a huge guy who normally has a size advantage over his opponents.

    He needs to improve on his comfort level when in close, and making his opponents pay when they miss their shots. He has definitely improved on both over the last 4 years, however he still needs more improvement. In close, he seems to be all over the place at times, and needs to be more relaxed, and solid on his feet. He wastes a lot of energy by being too excited, although that has become better as well. He also still backs up in straight lines once in a while. He needs to stop doing that, especially when his back is near the ropes. It scares the hell out of me. However, as I said before... the biggest one is making his opponents pay after they miss their shots and are out of balance. He does it every once in a while, however... normally he is content to just avoid their punches, and then reset. I guess, I would say that he needs to be a little more fluid in avoiding, and then counterpunching. These types of fights wouldn't last half the distance that they do if he did more of that. Of course... that leads to a possible exchange, and he is a smart fighter that doesn't like to leave his chin open if he doesn't need to.
     
    WiDDoW_MaKeR, Jul 12, 2008
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  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    This is a very good post.

    I think that Klistchko has the mentality and style of a technician and the attributes of a slugger. But he has twisted this style, and it works well for him.

    In many ways I sympathise with his perspective. He has a style which is something of a tight-rope act, and the slightest adjustment may turn great success to disaster. So he only tweaks it.

    I think he may prove to be an absolutley fascinating champion in retrospect.
     
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  6. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    Widdow, you made a great post. I don't read a bunch of nuthuggery in your posts, I think that context is put on by these readers... or the trolls like San Rafael.

    Again, nobody ****ing blames Thompson for this fight, like nobody blamed Ibragimov.

    Both guys didn't try to win their fights.. and Wlad did what he had to do to win.

    It's not like Thompson looked like he tried for more than about 45secs the whole damn fight.. same as Ibragimov.

    Thompson just sat there moving with that high guard in a southpaw stance.. of course that makes it ugly at times.

    Wlad adjusted, got more comfortable, and broke down Thompson, and got the KO.

    The guy who said Thompson quit? Well.. no ****.. he was eating right hands the whole goddamned fight from a pretty heavy puncher.. that'll make most guys quit.
     
    nervousxtian, Jul 12, 2008
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  7. blood_lust

    blood_lust Active Member Full Member

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    Honestly, it's hard not to have him in the top 15.

    1. He's had 5 successful defenses of his titles
    2. 6 of the last 7 opponents he beat were in the Ring Top-10 (and he stopped 5 of them)
    3. He has great overall skills, from offense to defense, though like any other fighter he needs to work on things.

    Compare that to guys who round out the top 15 such as DLH, Winky, SSM, Chris John, Paul William, JuanMa Lopez, Montiel, Joan Guzman, Nate Campbell, etc... and Wlad stacks up very well against them.


    His resume is equal if not better (as we are talking last 10 fights or so) to those.
     
    blood_lust, Jul 12, 2008
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  8. getup

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    this is nuthugging101
     
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  9. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    Wrong. He is being reasonable, considering the amount of hate Wlad is getting for a TKO win.

    You are pure hating. Plain. Simple.
     
    nervousxtian, Jul 12, 2008
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  10. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Stating facts is nuthugging? I guess that is the kind of logic that haters work off of.
     
    WiDDoW_MaKeR, Jul 12, 2008
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  11. Blacc Jesus

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    Agreed.
     
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  12. Flatlander

    Flatlander Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: I was just getting ready to post how boring the fight was and how bad both of them looked and I read the title to this thread. You are a one of a kind Klitschko nut hugger. :rofl

    "Adjust in a hard fight"

    That was classic!!! :rofl
     
    Flatlander, Jul 12, 2008
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  13. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Luckily... from past experience I already know that you are pretty weak in the "boxing knowledge" department.
     
    WiDDoW_MaKeR, Jul 12, 2008
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  14. BENNY BLANCO

    BENNY BLANCO R.I.P. Brooklyn1550 Full Member

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    As a Klitschko fan I found myself frustrated that Wlad was'nt pressing Tony to the ropes more because when he did he seem to let his hands go more often and Tony was content with just shelling up and not doing nothing.
     
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  15. Flatlander

    Flatlander Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hell, I have forgotten more about boxing than YOU will ever know.

    Seriously, you could not have been impressed with that. He went 10 rounds with a little known sparing partner and got busted up in the face while doing it. If Thompson had had any power Wladimir would have been in trouble.
     
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