Do not buy the Whyte fight.

@Little brian you can come out now small chap, shake hands and move onto a fight with the next poster

 

It probably did come from eddie. Thats because hes not far from the truth. Their all making good money doing what their doing but the reality is theres not quite enough money to make it worthwhile without ppv. Bearing in mind the work everyone needs to put in.

Just sit and do the maths on it. Say povetkin and whyte get 200,000 each. Take tax off that. 3 month training camps sparring partners. Drug testing etc. Then setting up the production of it all. All the boxing programmes most of us watched this week. All the different expenses. Your looking at over 750,000 to recoup. Will be more than that btw for a simple whyte v povetkin fight. No ticket sales. Say they make 250,000 in sponserships rights etc. Are sky sports paying out half a million quid to get that one fight. A niche market for their subscribers. Same again for chisora v parker. Same figures for any fight over british level. They just wont be paying that...its as simple as that.

Tickets? I think it was behind closed doors. No tickets we,re sold for that fight i think anyway.

In the same breath as looking at all the revenue you,ve also to look at all the costs. The list is basically endless.

 

£250,000 via corporate partnership? Are you taking the Michael?!

We're talking professional sport here, not Deal or No Deal.

And because boxing is not football in Europe, Basketball in the US does not make it a niche sport. A niche sport is Archery, Bowls, Water Polo, carom billiards etc. Do you also classify darts and snooker as niche sports?

 

No mate, that argument was indeed started by Eddie to justify putting every fight he possibly could on PPV because he's a greedy sod with utter disdain for the fans.
I'm not denying that there are costs to be covered but before this almost monthly PPV insanity started fighters seemed to manage just fine without it. If it was as bad as you say then other than true mega fights and small hall shows the boxing industry in the UK would have shut down a long time ago.
Fact of the matter is Eddie realised at some point that with some well produced hype, fake hate and a 24 news channel he could reel in gullible mugs to fork out £20 for almost anything and he went with it, long term damage and ethics be damned. Insatiable greed is the name of the game.

 

Wow. I must have missed or skimmed past most of his worst stuff.

 

Total oddball unfortunately. Lived a bit of a double life on this forum. We should feel sorry for him really, IMO it was clear from his posts that he was quite unwell and needed help. When he got himself a head of steam he came across as quite manic really.

 

Didn't look great did he, Whyte looked juiced to the gills and by juiced I obviously mean very healthy from all the vitamin C he's been getting from fresh orange juice consumed in his training camp in the Med.

 

I seem to recall Price once had hats and shirts with redemption plastered on them

 

Spot on. I just couldn’t be bothered writing something similar.

Don’t get me wrong I have huge respect for boxers but they choose to do because they have a skill and because it’s a better option than a 40-60 hour grind week in week out where your body ages unnaturally quickly and all the depression and stress that comes with it.

Bin men are ridiculed and are butt of jokes just like McDonald’s workers but that is the most dangerous job statistically. They get battered and ran over a lot by angry people late for that same 40-60 hour grind. Without them we’d be ****ed, without boxers there would still be plenty of fighting going on to watch or take part in. If they fight twice a year they have probably 20 weeks of super hard work a year. If you can get an average salary on that whilst keeping super fit it’s not bad going in my opinion. Obviously many deserve more money than that but it’s unfortunately supply and demand like you say. I think the danger part is an easy go to really and is getting a tiny bit over played with all the new awareness and brilliant safety measures.

 

This is a pointless fight though. Whyte got knocked out and huge abuse for keeping active and not doing what Callum Smith did. I didn’t get that. I don’t mind this fight at all by the way but what was it for?

Give me a small hall filled with evenly matched English/British title fights any day over this. Most of the fights would be a lot closer than most on PPV undercards and therefore more entertaining too. There were loads of them around 2011-14. I remember this quite well because it’s when I got my own place and finally got Sky. Hearn doesn’t give any of them anymore. As soon as Howard Foster stopped Groves the way he did and Anthony Joshua came through at the same time. It was game over.

Just to repeat. I didn’t actually mind this fight like most did when the first one was announced.

 

Hes actually smarter than that buddy. He realised without having the revenue to grow the sport...it wouldnt grow.

Hes took the money hes made from ppv...and distributed a portion of it back into the sport to grow a bigger market. Its just simple business. The otherhand of that is boxing stays where it is...struggling. Without anyone investing it. Thats the point we we,re at. Bbc no investment. Sky sports stopped investing as much. Channel five tiny budget.

Why do you think that is? Why are these guys not investing in boxing anymore. The biggest factor is...it just didnt make enough money because in the grand scheme of things boxings a small market. Without ppv boxing stays underfunded struggling away.

Throw in ppv,s...theres now money for a massive marketing budget. Suddenly things start moving. Fights start getting made. Boxing gets bigger. Boxing fans eventually get catered for. Take the ppv away and it goes backwards again. The choice to buy the ppv is yours but dont think for a minute anyone is consistantly investing in fights like that. Its just not happening. You,ve went from no choice to see consistantly decent fights...or a choice to see them. As a boxing fan i,d rather have the choice.

 

I m not sure about niche but boxing is a very small market of what sky sports subscribers actually want. Therefore the budgets set because of that.

I m not aware of the money that can be generated for a whyte v povetkin fight....but i know the expenses are almost never endinv if you we,re to list all the things that need to be paid for.

 

So two time drug cheat Dillian Whyte and Chisora becoming multi millionaires off the back of £20 PPV's is helping grow the sport and Eddie is doing this because he cares ?? I've heard some nonsense in my time on these forums but this is right up there.

 

cheers, back to normal the last couple of days...

there is a lot of anti Whyte stuff in here and Twitter but there’s a reason for that and that reason is PPVS, Whyte isn’t a too level fighter and we have been brainwashed to pay for his fights.

mom a side note Eddie hasn’t made Whyte/ chooses etc PPV stars for them or boxing. He did it for sky & matchroom. He has a contract to put on a minimum of 4 PPVS each year for sky THATS why we have all these crap ppvs

we ain’t anti-Whyte, just anti bull****, which he is surrounded by

 

Povetkin looks like a bag of turd.

So it's a Covid riddled, 41 year old who in recent times has looked a shadow of his former self..


And you watch, when Whyte beats him it will be one big circle jerk and be spoken about like one if the greatest victories of all times.