Do not buy the Whyte fight.

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  1. Unforgiven

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    :lol:
     
  2. Skyver

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    Lol he did put a beating on the harsh AJ critics tbf.
     
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  3. Fibbo

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    So question answered as I thought a previous reference to Tony Hayers was slang for the boys drinking on Old Compton Street.

    Are you hinting you were Tony Hayers and now turned into Skyver?

    Why not just keep posting as Tony?
     
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  4. Murderers' Row

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    He did unfortunately, I do wonder what for.
     
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  5. im sparticus

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    I live in a area that's big on rugby. I have lots of friends that played weekend games for local clubs. Some of the injurys are horrific. One lad I know has lost sight in one eye and when he went to make a claim as he's been paying his subs which were supposed to of covered insurance it turned out the club secretary hadn't been paying the premiums. It's a real tough game.
     
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  6. DirtyOldTown

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    The card is an absolute joke.
     
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  7. Skyver

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    Nah I wasn't hayers mate I just agreed with a lot of his opinions even though he clearly had an agenda to wind people up.i was unfairly permabanned in a previous life though as I'm sure you have been too.
     
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  8. Fibbo

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    He sounds a character.
     
  9. Safin

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    There are people who work 70 hours per week whose hobbies are triathlons and ultramarathons, who have YT channels with barely any subscribers (so little to no monetary incentive) and are active on the likes of Instagram etc, and you're trying to say that a professional, multi-millionaire boxer has got it tough trying to stay sub 25% body fat and then doing a few interviews that they clearly love doing?
     
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  10. Unforgiven

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    I think he thought i was saying they "just" fight twice a year, or that I implied they just roll out of bed to fight two days a year and have nothing else to do. But I didn't.
    I said if they had two jobs a year and earned as much as a full-time surgeon, that wouldn't be cause for feeling hard done by.
    Like I said, Whyte had 2 fights in 2019 and one of them he turned up 20+ pounds overweight anyway. :lol:
    Lots of professions require constant extra-cuuricular training, media and conference duties, lots of unpaid hours, etc.

    Even if a professional heavyweight boxer is "only" making £100,000 to £200,000 a year on two fights, and he's not even having to win them, and he doesn't have to make weight, and he's not world champion or world challenger, he's more like British level ..... that really doesn't sound anywhere near as bad as @bbjc thinks it does.
    And I think there's far more potential in non-PPV, regular SKY, regular BT, Channel 5, etc., than that.
     
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    As for Dillian Whyte, every time he stepped up and fought someone legitimately top 10 he's lost or been lucky to get the win.

    AJ : wasn't yet a legit top 10 fighter but in terms of ability he probably was. Whyte was KO'd.

    Povetkin : Hanging in there in the top 10, coming off a disputable draw with Hunter, 40 years old, on his way down, clearly. Whyte was KO'd.

    Parker : was top 10 for having held the WBO belt and gone 12 distance with AJ but had looked bad in his last 4 fights and was somewhat overrated (not least by myself !). Whyte was LUCKY to get the win, all things considered. Was almost stopped in 12th round.

    Rivas was probably outside the top 10 on a credible list, borderline at best. More like top 20.
    Chisora, top 15 or 20 after KOing Takam perhaps.
    These a fringe-level 'contenders'.
    Helenius, Wach and Browne even less than that. Just 'trial horse' types.
     
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    Yes, the professional boxing gig, if you are earning £100,000, even before tax, per year, is an income which would afford you an upper-middle class lifestyle after only a handful of years in the job. Apparently that is not enough for bbjc. In terms of materialism, to which most boxers seem to aspire, a large detached house in a good suburb, with a couple of premium cars, several investment properties including a holiday home some place along the Mediterranean, several Rolex watches, social status, plenty of money in the bank... and the rest, is simply not enough.

    To put things into perspective, Dereck Chisora's lifestyle pisses all over that!
     
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  13. BiggieL

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    I’ve been a ppv mug in the past but not a chance for this, angling club for me
     
  14. fenoc1

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    Two drug cheating scumbags, hope they both knock each other out at the same time
     
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  15. bbjc

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    People need to get real. There is an argument that elite sports stars get paid far too much. I,ll agree with that. But like most things in life your worth what people are willing to pay. And boxing after the investment went....wasnt a worthwhile game. Dart players have net worths of 10 million. Jordan speith golfer worth about 100 million. Venus williams 120 million. Steve davis 40 million if not a lot more.

    What one of you guys are going to tell dillon whyte hes getting 100,000 for povetkin. I,ll be at the back of that que anyway.

    Elite sports stars get paid a lot of money...basically because it generates a lot of money. Unfortunately boxing struggled to generate massive money outside of the true elite. The 0.1 percent.

    In britain atm joshua would be the only one making great money. Without ppv everyone else would be struggling.

    Why do people not get that....no one wants to invest in boxing. Sky, bbc, itv, channel 5. None of them because the figures dont add up for it. Lets say there was only regular sky tv. How much is fair to give dillon whyte...say 200,000 for him and povetkin each. 100,000 after tax or whatever for two top tenish in the whole world heavyweights. So why would sky invest in it...when their market says they dont want boxing covered in enough numbers. Their spending 500,000 quid to please say 4 percent of their market who want to see the money spent on football or f1 or whatever. Their definetely not doing that every 2 or 3 weeks. So these fights dont get made.

    To keep boxing going like it is now....before lockdown at some points you we,re getting decent fights almost everyweek.

    They investers dont want to pay for that tho. Neither does anyone for that matter. What happens is you have to wait months for fights and you end up with frank warrens wbo runs but worse because the investments now a lot lower.

    Can anyone say with a straight face that eddies not grew british boxing? Hes done it with your money right enough but just look at the names we,ve got fighting or had fighting regularly. That ppv moneys paid a lot of different people over the years. From the guys setting up the big press conference. To the big venue. All the way to the boxers. Dillan whyte wont be the only one making decent money this weekend they all will be.

    Boxing has to be self funded to an extent if you want consistant good fights because no one else wants to fund it. Its pretty much as simple as that.

    Go back to no ppv but for the truely elite...and give whyte about 50,000 to fight povetkin cause thats what he,d be getting and watch how much the sport yous all love struggle on forever.

    If you want it to grow...what you,ve all been wanting for years you need to pay for it...otherwise it,ll just be on forums moaning about why your not getting more boxing on your tv. Or why its not covered much.
     
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