Saul Canelo Alvarez vs Wilfred Benitez at 154 lbs, 15 rounds, both prime.

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Fun facts:
    1. Duran is 3-3 at 154 with a loss to Kirkland Laing and a highlight reel ko loss to Hearns.
    2. Erislandy Lara is 10 years deep and running as a top 5 Ring rated 154 pounder.
    3. Austin Trout spent 4 years as a top 5 as a Ring rated 154 pounder, and 7 years total in the top ten.
    4. Maurice Hope spent 6 years in the top 5 for The Ring, and 6 years total in the top ten.
     
  2. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Even funnier fact:
    1. Lara is not considered an all-time great.
    2. Duran Went on to win TWO titles AFTER the Benitez bout.
    3. Hope hadn't lost in FIVE years leading up to Benitez.
    4. Trout has done what since the Canelo fight? Beaten any top boxers?
     
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  3. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And the funniest fact is: you still will not name Canelos two best wins at this class!!!!
     
  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Fun facts 2.0:
    1. Hope lost a fight and retired after Benitez
    2. Trout and Lara hadn’t lost, ever, until fighting Canelo.
    3. Trout had competitive fights with both Charlo’s after losing to Canelo.
    4. Duran never successfully defended a title after losing to Benitez.
     
  5. ron davis

    ron davis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Doesn't have to be at his best, Mayweather couldn't get away or take Benitez punches.
     
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  6. Thread Stealer

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  7. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Canelo's best chance is to catch him cold with a punch he doesn't see and follow up. Trouble is Benitez wasn't called El Radar for nothing so the version that beat Duran has to, for me, be favored by decision over a still improving Canelo.
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon VIP Member Full Member

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    How is any of this relevant?

    They’re just stats without context.

    Duran had more losses and less fights, but he fought better opponents and then moved up.

    Are you really trying to say that Canelo’s win over Lara, was better than Benitez’ win over Duran?
     
  9. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Benitez was incredibly gifted.
     
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  10. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Lara would be at least 50:50 to beat Duran at 154.
     
  11. Sooncreate3

    Sooncreate3 Member Full Member

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    Let's say this fight occurs at the MGM Grand or the Alamodome in a 12 rounder. Wilfred Benitez outclasses Canelo but 2 corrupt judges ruin the scoring and Canelo gets the decision. The fight would resemble Alvarez vs Lara except Benitez is way better and more slick.
     
  12. Loudon

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    You really think so?

    And how good was Lara and Trout in comparison to Benitez?
     
  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Trout was worse. Lara similar ballpark. More consistent, especially at 154. Benitez may have had a slightly higher absolute best at 154, which lasted like 2 fights.
     
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  14. Amos-san

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    Trout is **** in comparison to Maurice Hope. Hope was the best 154 fighter of late 70's. He beat Antuofermo, was robbed against Dagge, beat much underrated Mattioli. Benitez - one of the best 154 pounders with victories over Hope, Santos, Duran and very good performance with prime Hitman. And "Pugilist specialist" is fake who doesnt know **** about.
     
  15. Alexandrow Vids

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    Only Millennials or non-objective Mexicans would choose Canelo.

    Benitez wouldn't give up like all these Punching Bags on Canelo´s resume.